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Tom Littleton wrote:

... Where is my
hypocrisy? First, my post went far beyond the recent exchanges with Louie, and
yes he did act poorly(I noted a possible excuse, but it is just that, a sort of
rationale for out of character behavior). I was responding far more to:
... 2. The TONE and personal nature of attacks of late and 3.
The lack of consideration between folks who seem to have a long, positive
personal history. Now, how that gets to be hypocrisy, looking back on what and
how I have exchanged thoughts over the past 9 years, I can't figure.

I had never, so far as I knew, ever had a cross word with you,
hell I've never even met you, when you ripped off a vicious
personal attack. I was surprised and I didn't know what to think.
You've repeated the performance on a couple of occasions since.
Therein lies your hypocrisy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Ken writes:
I had never, so far as I knew, ever had a cross word with you,
hell I've never even met you, when you ripped off a vicious
personal attack. I was surprised and I didn't know what to think.
You've repeated the performance on a couple of occasions since.
Therein lies your hypocrisy.

ok, Ken, we have a semantics issue here.
By personal attacks, I was referring to attacks taking a low road(ie: attacks
dealing with an individual's personal life,
health, relatives,etc). I realize perfectly well that exchanges between
individuals here, or anyplace, will involve pointing a single person out. My
"attacks" upon you were an expression of my dismay on the seemingly ignorant
manner you choose to display when attacking others. Yes, I feel you behave like
a complete asshole on here. Yes, I believe you behavior influences the choices
of others to be here. Further,
I feel you are a perfect example of the kind of Usenet participant who talks
one way online, and hasn't the balls to do the same in person. I would be more
than happy to say so to your face, should I encounter you.
All this said, you were far from the source of my original post here. I was
responding to a seeming avalanche of poor interpersonal communication.
hypocrisy my ass,
Tom

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Tom Littleton threatens again:

ok, Ken, we have a semantics issue here. ...

Semantics, my ass, you sanctimonious little prick, and I'd
be more than happy to say that in your face if I'm ever so
unfortunate as to cross paths with you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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snakefiddler wrote:

well said uncle wayno-
this has been a question in my mind, as i find it difficult to believe that
folks could really enjoy fishing with such an abrasive human being.......
and as i tend to agree with some of your politics, ken, it pains me further
to know that i could share such ideals with one possessing the persona you
display on roff - (course i'm sure that could be said of many other folks
who politics i share, but will never meet.)

In person, Fortenberry isn't that hard to take. Butter wouldn't melt in
his mouth, as my late mother used to say. He can cook a more-than-decent
pasta. He's a halfway competent fisherman, considering his effete
affectations. I haven't yet seen him catch a fish, despite numerous
opportunities, but hope springs eternal. If you get into a political
discussion he might act up a little, and get personal, like he does on
ROFF, but a "**** you, Fortenberry" will put him in a more conciliatory
mood.

Which is the "real" Fortenberry? I don't know, and I don't really care.
My only regret is that I had a golden opportunity to put him on his ass
at the Henrys Fork Clave, with no one else around, and I passed, content
to scare him off with his tail between his legs. Maybe another
opportunity will come along, but I doubt it. Life is full of regrets.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Tom Littleton wrote:
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I had never, so far as I knew, ever had a cross word with you,
hell I've never even met you, when you ripped off a vicious
personal attack. I was surprised and I didn't know what to think.
You've repeated the performance on a couple of occasions since.

What? Was Tom trespassing on your turf?

Therein lies your hypocrisy.

Being a sweetheart in person and an asshole on ROFF --- that's hypocrisy.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Ken states:
Tom Littleton threatens again:

sorry you feel threatened.

Semantics, my ass, you sanctimonious little prick, and I'd
be more than happy to say that in your face if I'm ever so
unfortunate as to cross paths with you.

ho-hum!
Tom

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Tom Littleton wrote:

sorry you feel threatened.

Are you now ? That would make you a liar and a hypocrite.

Well, that went about as well as a Pollyanna plea could be
expected to go. Let that be a lesson to all of us.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote You and
Tommy both are all-star hypocrites. I can't be more truthful
than that. It's sweet that you feel compelled to squeal like little
school girls when Louie gets a well-deserved bitch slapping, but he's
a big boy now, when he dances the flamenco on his dick with track
shoes he deserves to be good and thoroughly bitch slapped. I can't
be more truthful than that.

I am Ken Fortenberry, if that's not what you expected either change
your expectations or learn to use your killfile.

--
Ken Fortenberry

ah, well, i am old enough to realize that friends are easily made, but
lost only with difficulty and regret. sorry, ken.

wayno

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Ken writes:
sorry you feel threatened.

Are you now ? That would make you a liar and a hypocrite.

where did I threaten you? Trust me,chum, if you are trying to read between the
lines and get a threat out of it, you don't have a clue about me. Not that I
would be surprised over that, but.....If I wanted to threaten you, it would be
dead obvious, trust me.
Well, that went about as well as a Pollyanna plea could be
expected to go. Let that be a lesson to all of us.

as noted, you seemed to be the only one who stated any offense, so I figure
that bodes well. It seems, Ken, that you want to see things in Black and White,
Good and Evil, Friend and Foe. Kinda like our Commander in Chief, with
different politics.
That sort of stuff is a little shallow for my tastes, most of the time. I do
agree that a lesson might be learned by all, but not in the sense you see it.
Tom

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Tom Littleton wrote:

... Trust me,chum, if you are trying to read between the
lines and get a threat out of it, you don't have a clue about me. Not that I
would be surprised over that, but.....If I wanted to threaten you, it would be
dead obvious, trust me.

I have more than a clue about you, "chum", I know you way better
than you'd like to think. I choose my words carefully and when I
refer to you as a sanctimonious little prick I do so as an astute
and experienced observer of Usenet personae.

--
Ken Fortenberry