A Plea for Sanity

All,
It has been noted, by some who a regulars, and some who are less frequent
posters, that ROFF has gotten nearly painful to read of late. Bitter exchanges,
misinterpretations, off-hand insults and the like are far too common, the
latest example being Dave LaCourse's "dialogue" with several folks. Perhaps it
is, as suggested, the annual "cabin fever". I think, in some cases, it goes
deeper than that. Here in the US, we are in the midst of a divisive election
year. Further, as noted in his own posts, David has some serious health
worries. I think such worries can, and do, color one's tolerance and manner of
dealing with others. About a year back, Mike Connor and I had a bitter
exchange, which upon reflection was probably made far more virulent by the fact
that both of us were in distress over the health of a loved one. Not that such
are excuses, but I am here to make a plea for tolerance of others which seems
to have evaporated from the posts of some on here. As Wolfgang noted in another
thread, this place has been capable of spawning friendships, fishing
partnerships and a special kind of kinship among its participants over the past
10 years. I have always enjoyed the intellectual debates and downright
silliness that occurs here, but as wayno noted, the tearing asunder of
friendships is painful to watch. I beg for sanity, and an attempt to understand
the feeling of others. Take the tongue-in-check stuff with a grain of salt,
understand the limitations of Usenet communication and try to bring something
to the table that is positive once in a while. I'll probably get the
predicatable amount of response along the lines of "don't tell me what to
do...",etc, but really couldn't care less. I am not telling anyone what to do,
just hoping that some can find it in their souls to do the right thing, and act
like adults.
Tom

Tommy Littleton cued the sappy violin sound track and pleaded:

... Not that such
are excuses, but I am here to make a plea for tolerance of others which seems
to have evaporated from the posts of some on here. ...

**** that ****.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Forty notes:
**** that ****.


as predictable, as it is trivial, a comment.
Tom

Tommy Littleton sneered:
Forty notes:

**** that ****.

as predictable, as it is trivial, a comment.

No more trivial than your hypocritical plea, just quite a
bit less verbose.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Tommy Littleton sneered:
Forty notes:

**** that ****.

as predictable, as it is trivial, a comment.

No more trivial than your hypocritical plea, just quite a
bit less verbose.

--
Ken Fortenberry

listen, ken, i need you to tell me the truth about something: who the
**** *are* you?

if you are the guy i met at the first clave, and have since, on several
occasions, fished with, drank with, laughed with, argued with, and just
enjoyed a sense of friendship with, but who simply has this inexplicable,
and apparently irresistable, need to become the virtual embodiment of the
term "asshole" during your participation in this newsgroup, then i can deal
with the situation, as we all must do as long as you post here.
but if the "real" ken is a charade, put in place to permit your
occasional attendance at gatherings of folks who enjoy a common recreational
activity, without having your ass chewed out or whipped, as the need might
arise, then let me know the truth. in that fashion, if the answer to the
latter scenario is "yes", i can merely return your sophomoric "**** you"
response on the web and in person, and both of us can get on with living a
little more closely to the truth. in my view, that is what we should all
try to do, without regard to how close to perfection our individual truth
might be.

and , fwiw, tom littleton is as far away from hypocrisy as your online
persona is from a state of grace.

your friend in the old north state
wayno

Wayne Harrison wrote:

listen, ken, i need you to tell me the truth about something: who the
**** *are* you? snipped

Which is the "real" wayno, the scourge of the newbies or the Kumbaya
evangelist from the guitar group, a friend of mine, or a behind my
back tutor who teaches "roff according to wayno" via email ?

You and Tommy both are all-star hypocrites. I can't be more truthful
than that. It's sweet that you feel compelled to squeal like little
school girls when Louie gets a well-deserved bitch slapping, but he's
a big boy now, when he dances the flamenco on his dick with track
shoes he deserves to be good and thoroughly bitch slapped. I can't
be more truthful than that.

I am Ken Fortenberry, if that's not what you expected either change
your expectations or learn to use your killfile.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Tommy Littleton sneered:
Forty notes:

**** that ****.

as predictable, as it is trivial, a comment.

No more trivial than your hypocritical plea, just quite a
bit less verbose.

--
Ken Fortenberry

listen, ken, i need you to tell me the truth about something: who the
**** *are* you?

if you are the guy i met at the first clave, and have since, on several
occasions, fished with, drank with, laughed with, argued with, and just
enjoyed a sense of friendship with, but who simply has this inexplicable,
and apparently irresistable, need to become the virtual embodiment of the
term "asshole" during your participation in this newsgroup, then i can
deal
with the situation, as we all must do as long as you post here.
but if the "real" ken is a charade, put in place to permit your
occasional attendance at gatherings of folks who enjoy a common
recreational
activity, without having your ass chewed out or whipped, as the need might
arise, then let me know the truth. in that fashion, if the answer to the
latter scenario is "yes", i can merely return your sophomoric "**** you"
response on the web and in person, and both of us can get on with living a
little more closely to the truth. in my view, that is what we should all
try to do, without regard to how close to perfection our individual truth
might be.

and , fwiw, tom littleton is as far away from hypocrisy as your online
persona is from a state of grace.

your friend in the old north state
wayno




well said uncle wayno-
this has been a question in my mind, as i find it difficult to believe that
folks could really enjoy fishing with such an abrasive human being.......
and as i tend to agree with some of your politics, ken, it pains me further
to know that i could share such ideals with one possessing the persona you
display on roff - (course i'm sure that could be said of many other folks
who politics i share, but will never meet.)

Snakefiddler- will the real forty please stand up?

Forty babbles:
No more trivial than your hypocritical plea, just quite a
bit less verbose.

YAWN
succinct enough for you?
Tom
p.s. I always liked the sporting bar analogy
of ROFF, but in a real bar, one can enjoy
watching people getting tossed after making nuisances of themselves....or,
getting their asses kicked.

Tommy Littleton threatens:
...
p.s. I always liked the sporting bar analogy
of ROFF, but in a real bar, one can enjoy
watching people getting tossed after making nuisances of themselves....or,
getting their asses kicked.

Asses kicked in a "Plea for Sanity" thread. Sweet.

No hypocrites here, no siree. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tommy Littleton sneered:

Forty notes:

**** that ****.


as predictable, as it is trivial, a comment.


No more trivial than your hypocritical plea, just quite a
bit less verbose.


Just a bit. The essence would have read:

"I'm proud to be an asshole and anyone who doesn't like
it can **** off."

Willi