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Joe Z July 15th, 2004 04:55 AM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
Look at his line. Rich is probably using 4lb or 6lb test. The small hook is
a tell on this as well. You don't do an eye popping set with that size line.
I landed a 42" muskie on Crow Lake a few years ago that was hooked not much
better. Of course I was using 8lb test on a medium baitcaster fishing for
Lakers on the reefs. Heavier tackle and I am sure I would have horsed the
hook out. Joe Z.

"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is
the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe
that
the fish was landed with that hookset.



RichZ July 15th, 2004 04:57 AM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
Lure wrote:
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is the
bait missing,


Drop shot fishing, nose hooked plastics are often lost when the fish jumps.
Sometimes you catch 8 or 9 fish without losing the plastic. And sometimes you
lose it on the first fish. But almost all of them float right up and are
re-usable if you are of a mind to retrieve them. Just bite off the torn nose of
the bait and re-rig it.

Don't recall which of the various small plastics that fish was caught on. I use
them kind of interchangeably when drop shotting.

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Scott Seidman July 15th, 2004 03:51 PM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
"Sarge" wrote in
:

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A
larger hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a
hook hinders more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise
he landed the fish.


The hook looks small to me, too. I'd think it would increase the risk of
deep hookups

Scott

Scott Seidman July 15th, 2004 03:51 PM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
"Sarge" wrote in
:

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A
larger hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a
hook hinders more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise
he landed the fish.


The hook looks small to me, too. I'd think it would increase the risk of
deep hookups

Scott

Scott Seidman July 15th, 2004 03:51 PM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
"Sarge" wrote in
:

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A
larger hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a
hook hinders more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise
he landed the fish.


The hook looks small to me, too. I'd think it would increase the risk of
deep hookups

Scott

Bob La Londe July 15th, 2004 10:33 PM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob wrote:
My thought is to go with as wide a gap hook as you feel the
bait can support,


Actually, from a purely mechanical standpoint, wider gap hooks are harder

to
set and easier to back out than standard gap hooks.



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Lure builder July 15th, 2004 11:11 PM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 
You find RichZ hard to believe? That's almost funny...

Warren


richz did not say it was his fish, when a fish is hooked and on retrieve the
hook can move about within the fish's mouth, so i wasn't doubting richz, but i
have no trouble doubting you..lol

alwaysfishking July 17th, 2004 01:40 AM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 

Anyone who has a hard time beleiving that fish was caught with that hook
don't fish much or don't catch many fish. I wacky rig a lot, and I use 1/0
or 2/0 octopus hooks. They are small hooks, but bigger hooks alter the
fall(action of the lure) IMO, I love the smaller hooks, almost 90% of the
time my fish are going no where on a wacky rig hook, but every now and then
I get one that is skin tagged like the fish in the picture, I have noticed
it happens more when the fish is running towards me prior to the hook set.
That is usually when I miss most fish also



"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Lure wrote:
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture

is the
bait missing,


Drop shot fishing, nose hooked plastics are often lost when the fish

jumps.
Sometimes you catch 8 or 9 fish without losing the plastic. And sometimes

you
lose it on the first fish. But almost all of them float right up and are
re-usable if you are of a mind to retrieve them. Just bite off the torn

nose of
the bait and re-rig it.

Don't recall which of the various small plastics that fish was caught on.

I use
them kind of interchangeably when drop shotting.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing




alwaysfishking July 17th, 2004 01:40 AM

Why I hate beaked hooks
 

Anyone who has a hard time beleiving that fish was caught with that hook
don't fish much or don't catch many fish. I wacky rig a lot, and I use 1/0
or 2/0 octopus hooks. They are small hooks, but bigger hooks alter the
fall(action of the lure) IMO, I love the smaller hooks, almost 90% of the
time my fish are going no where on a wacky rig hook, but every now and then
I get one that is skin tagged like the fish in the picture, I have noticed
it happens more when the fish is running towards me prior to the hook set.
That is usually when I miss most fish also



"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Lure wrote:
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture

is the
bait missing,


Drop shot fishing, nose hooked plastics are often lost when the fish

jumps.
Sometimes you catch 8 or 9 fish without losing the plastic. And sometimes

you
lose it on the first fish. But almost all of them float right up and are
re-usable if you are of a mind to retrieve them. Just bite off the torn

nose of
the bait and re-rig it.

Don't recall which of the various small plastics that fish was caught on.

I use
them kind of interchangeably when drop shotting.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing




Bob La Londe July 17th, 2004 04:13 PM

HEY RICH!!!!
 
Why? I can see why it might be easier to work out if there is a big bait or
pegged weight next tot he shank since it would be the equivelent of a longer
lever, but why is it harder to set, and why is it that I get more and better
hooksets in most circumstances by using a wider gap hook.

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob wrote:
My thought is to go with as wide a gap hook as you feel the
bait can support,


Actually, from a purely mechanical standpoint, wider gap hooks are

harder
to
set and easier to back out than standard gap hooks.



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