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Josh January 22nd, 2004 03:48 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Well, I'm not buying one, but I have to tell you guys. . . I'm danged
impressed. Went to a new local tackle shop today and was nosing around the
reels with a friend of mine who asked me if I'd seen the new Shimmano
"computerized" reel. I hadn't so out of the show case it came. The guy
behind the counter telling me how far it could cast. . . farther than I
could throw any reel in the joint. blah blah blah.. you know?

So I says "Look pal for $500. my thumb does just as good a job". He says
"Five bucks says it can't." I say's "yer on." So out the front door of the
shop and into a long long nearly empty mini mall parking lot we go. . . me,
my buddy another customer and the sales clerk. The guy hands me the rod and
reel and says give it a go. I threw a medium cast and it went ok, but didn't
notice much difference. Then he turned me into the wind and said... give it
a real heavy throw and . . . don't put your thumb anywhere near the spool.
I did and it went pretty well, but I think i was a little timid with it. But
I threw that silly thing a country mile and not a line strand out of place.
It was amazing.

But then this guy who was with us took that reel and threw the plug farther
than I have ever seen any cast in my life. And never touched the reel spool
and not anywhere near a backlash. Now I'm not going to go buy one, can't
afford it any longer, but it was the damndest thang I ever saw when it came
to casting. Now it does have a set back in that the retrieve is slow.. like
a 5:1 or something like that. A great crankbait reel though because you
could throw the thing into the next county.

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this thing and had any thoughts or
comments about it. I was very favorably impressed with everything except the
price.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



J Buck January 22nd, 2004 04:20 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
no reel is worth 500 bucks...unless you can afford it LoL


Crownliner January 22nd, 2004 05:05 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
so here's the question. did you pay him the $5or not?

crownliner

"Josh" wrote in message
...
Well, I'm not buying one, but I have to tell you guys. . . I'm danged
impressed. Went to a new local tackle shop today and was nosing around the
reels with a friend of mine who asked me if I'd seen the new Shimmano
"computerized" reel. I hadn't so out of the show case it came. The guy
behind the counter telling me how far it could cast. . . farther than I
could throw any reel in the joint. blah blah blah.. you know?

So I says "Look pal for $500. my thumb does just as good a job". He says
"Five bucks says it can't." I say's "yer on." So out the front door of the
shop and into a long long nearly empty mini mall parking lot we go. . .

me,
my buddy another customer and the sales clerk. The guy hands me the rod

and
reel and says give it a go. I threw a medium cast and it went ok, but

didn't
notice much difference. Then he turned me into the wind and said... give

it
a real heavy throw and . . . don't put your thumb anywhere near the spool.
I did and it went pretty well, but I think i was a little timid with it.

But
I threw that silly thing a country mile and not a line strand out of

place.
It was amazing.

But then this guy who was with us took that reel and threw the plug

farther
than I have ever seen any cast in my life. And never touched the reel

spool
and not anywhere near a backlash. Now I'm not going to go buy one, can't
afford it any longer, but it was the damndest thang I ever saw when it

came
to casting. Now it does have a set back in that the retrieve is slow..

like
a 5:1 or something like that. A great crankbait reel though because you
could throw the thing into the next county.

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this thing and had any thoughts or
comments about it. I was very favorably impressed with everything except

the
price.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





mayor January 22nd, 2004 05:11 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Give it a couple years and Zebco will probably have one for $35.99
"J Buck" wrote in message
...
no reel is worth 500 bucks...unless you can afford it LoL




Charles Summers January 22nd, 2004 05:29 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
I once thought the Curado was too much. Now I own 5 of them. Also thought
it'll be a cold day on August before I ever spent over $100 on a rod... now
I own, well never mind. Let's just not tell my wife.

Would I pay $500 on a reel??? I hope not!

--
Charles B. Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com


"J Buck" wrote in message
...
no reel is worth 500 bucks...unless you can afford it LoL




Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 22nd, 2004 12:55 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 

"Josh" wrote in message SNIP

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this thing and had any thoughts or
comments about it. I was very favorably impressed with everything except

the
price.


I saw this reel at its debut in Las Vegas for ICAST and got a chance to play
with it. I was impressed with how far I could throw an amazingly small
practice plug, but it is NOT infallible.

A guy from South Africa gave the reel a try and threw a backlash of EPIC
proportions. I though only my clients caused ones that bad..... :-)
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



luv2bafield January 22nd, 2004 01:37 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 

"Josh" wrote in message
...
Well, I'm not buying one, but I have to tell you guys. . . I'm danged
impressed. Went to a new local tackle shop today and was nosing around the
reels with a friend of mine who asked me if I'd seen the new Shimmano
"computerized" reel. I hadn't so out of the show case it came. The guy
behind the counter telling me how far it could cast. . . farther than I
could throw any reel in the joint. blah blah blah.. you know?

BIG SNIP

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this thing and had any thoughts or
comments about it. I was very favorably impressed with everything except

the
price.


At some point you can go to far with all the "aids" our technology can bring
us. At some point I guess we'll each own an android that will cast for us.
Maybe we won't even leave the house, we'll just watch our droid fishing on
our watch. Frankly, I hope the perfect rod, perfect reel, perfect lure,
etc, is never found. There's something about an occasional backlash and an
occasional day of getting skunked that keeps us all coming back.



Josh January 22nd, 2004 03:30 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Crown, lol he let me off with the promise I'll bring my business to his
shop.. told him I'd see him Sat morn. lol.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Kurt Bimler January 22nd, 2004 06:24 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
What shop? I would like to try one out.

Kurt

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:30:22 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Crown, lol he let me off with the promise I'll bring my business to his
shop.. told him I'd see him Sat morn. lol.



RichZ January 22nd, 2004 10:34 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Steve wrote:
A guy from South Africa gave the reel a try and threw a backlash of EPIC
proportions


South Africa = South of the Equator. Everything spins the other way there.
Obviously, his counter clockwise muscle movements confused the clockwase
programmed computer.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 22nd, 2004 11:09 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
A guy from South Africa gave the reel a try and threw a backlash of EPIC
proportions


South Africa = South of the Equator. Everything spins the other way there.
Obviously, his counter clockwise muscle movements confused the clockwase
programmed computer.


Well, there ya go! I hadn't thought of that, but it does make sense.....
;-p
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



J Buck January 23rd, 2004 12:06 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
A guy from South Africa gave the reel a try and threw a backlash of
EPIC proportions

South Africa = South of the Equator. Everything spins the other way
there. Obviously, his counter clockwise muscle movements confused the
clockwase programmed computer

Great explanation! LoL


Josh January 23rd, 2004 10:05 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Kurt,
It was just a local shop on Plainfield road north west of Louis Joliet
Mall, Strictly Fishing, You from the area ?

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Jack Dalzell Jr. January 23rd, 2004 01:35 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 


Josh wrote:


Now it does have a set back in that the retrieve is slow.. like
a 5:1 or something like that. A great crankbait reel though because you
could throw the thing into the next county.



Josh,
This is a misconception that most anlgers have. The ability of the
reel to retreive at high speeds is only partially dependant on the gear
ratio. Spool size, line diameter, handle length, etc all play a part.
What you really need to pay attention to is the line retreived per
handle revolution. Using Shimano as the example, their Calcutta 150
lists a gear ratio of 5.8:1, the Calcutta 250 as 5.0:1 and the Calcutta
50 as 5.0:1. If you just look at these numbers, you expect the 150 to be
faster than both the 250 and the 50. And you'd also expect the 250 and
50 to be the same right? Well, the 150 and 250 both retreive 23" of line
per handle revolution (faster than a Curado 5.0:1) while the 50
retreives a snail like 16" per handle revolution making it an awesome
crankbait reel. The Calcutta TE DC that you are talking about also
retreives 23" per handle revolution.
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~


KurtB January 23rd, 2004 02:34 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Yep. I live next to the South Elgin Dam on the Fox river (almost
literally), and my job takes me all over the chicago land area.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:05:53 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Kurt,
It was just a local shop on Plainfield road north west of Louis Joliet
Mall, Strictly Fishing, You from the area ?



BrooklynBill January 23rd, 2004 09:49 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
"Jack Dalzell Jr." wrote in message ...
Josh wrote:


Now it does have a set back in that the retrieve is slow.. like
a 5:1 or something like that. A great crankbait reel though because you
could throw the thing into the next county.



Josh,
This is a misconception that most anlgers have. The ability of the
reel to retreive at high speeds is only partially dependant on the gear
ratio. Spool size, line diameter, handle length, etc all play a part.
What you really need to pay attention to is the line retreived per
handle revolution. Using Shimano as the example, their Calcutta 150
lists a gear ratio of 5.8:1, the Calcutta 250 as 5.0:1 and the Calcutta
50 as 5.0:1. If you just look at these numbers, you expect the 150 to be
faster than both the 250 and the 50. And you'd also expect the 250 and
50 to be the same right? Well, the 150 and 250 both retreive 23" of line
per handle revolution (faster than a Curado 5.0:1) while the 50
retreives a snail like 16" per handle revolution making it an awesome
crankbait reel. The Calcutta TE DC that you are talking about also
retreives 23" per handle revolution.
Jack

~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~



I HAVE THEM I USE THEM, FOR BOUT 7 MONTHS NOW. DC JAPAN THAT IS, IF
YOUR PAYING $500.00 + THATS TO MUCH. LUV THEM SELL THEM CAN'T KEEP
ENOUGH IN STOCK. TRUST ME THEY R SELLING VERY WELL. WOULD YOU TELL
ANYONE YOU SPENT $500.00 ON A FISHING REEL NOT ME I GUESS I DID MY
LONGEST CAST TO DATE IS BOUT 70+ YRDS AND THATS BEFORE STRECHING.
GOOD SOLID QAULITY REEL, IS IT FOR EVERYONE NO IT IS NOT BUT ONCE YOU
THROW IT A FEW TIMES YOU WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT YOURSELF.

BROOKLYN BILL

Josh January 26th, 2004 09:02 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Jack, thanks for the really excellent information. Never knew what you just
advised of. Always thought all were the same via the ratio listed. Thanks
again.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Josh January 26th, 2004 09:05 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Well they closed the Ed Shirley story down by us and left little for fishing
tackle shop. Plan to get up that way this springtime. You n me n Illinois
Fisherman should hit the water some time. My aol email address is
or and soon will have new one. Private
Detective Agency site under construction. Drop a note any time.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



ñKs January 27th, 2004 12:18 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
So you are buying one..;-)

"Josh" wrote in message
...
Crown, lol he let me off with the promise I'll bring my business to his
shop.. told him I'd see him Sat morn. lol.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





Kurt Bimler January 27th, 2004 03:29 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:05:08 -0600, "Josh"
wrote:

Well they closed the Ed Shirley story down by us and left little for fishing
tackle shop. Plan to get up that way this springtime. You n me n Illinois
Fisherman should hit the water some time. My aol email address is
or and soon will have new one. Private
Detective Agency site under construction. Drop a note any time.



Sounds like a good time - of course with the 1-6 inches of snow that
is on the way, I am starting to think the water will never thaw...

Kurt

Josh January 27th, 2004 04:57 AM

$500 Baitcaster
 
Nuh uh ! My thumb will do just fine for now. Tho. . . I have to admit I was
tempted.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Jack Dalzell Jr. January 27th, 2004 01:34 PM

$500 Baitcaster
 
No problem Josh. It's good to know that I could add something productive
to the group. Guess 10 years working on Shimano's pro-staff has paid
off..........
Jack
~~
Jack Dalzell
http://secretweaponlures.com/jdbass/jdhome.htm
http://www.OutdoorFrontiers.com
~~

Josh wrote:
Jack, thanks for the really excellent information. Never knew what you just
advised of. Always thought all were the same via the ratio listed. Thanks
again.




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