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Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 8th, 2008 04:26 PM

NEFF Banning
 
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--





[email protected] August 9th, 2008 04:34 AM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 8, 5:26*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op *--of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board. Quite rightly
so if your only reason for going there is to launch personal attacks.

Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?

riverman August 9th, 2008 05:48 AM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 8, 11:26*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op *--of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


I would assume that, if you chose to post there, you could create a
new yahoo account and give that as your email addy.

FWIW, after his off-the-cuff attack, Dennis emailed me personally and
made an offer to bury the hatchet. Sort of a strange guy, that
Dennis.

--riverman

[email protected] August 9th, 2008 09:41 AM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 6:48*am, riverman wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:26*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:



Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op *--of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


I would assume that, if you chose to post there, you could create a
new yahoo account and give that as your email addy.

FWIW, after his off-the-cuff attack, Dennis emailed me personally and
made an offer to bury the hatchet. Sort of a strange guy, that
Dennis.

--riverman


Myron, having spent some time with you, I thought you were a pretty
decent bloke, sensible, talented, and basically just a nice guy.

Can you tell me why you would encourage that stupid asshole to go and
harass somebody on another board? Apart from the fact that your
suggestion of simply getting another account at Yahoo fortunately won
īt work as boards log IPīs.

The stupid ******* went to that the board with the express purpose of
harassing people, and getting banned, and he is also defaming the
board owner here on this board.

If you people had been sensible in the first place, and not allowed
yourselves to be whipped up and manipulated by Fortenberry, none of
this would have occurred.

Something else which I am curious about, as a schoolteacher at an
international school, how can you even take the risk of consorting
with some of the **** on this board?

This group, and many others, are fed all over the place, it is a cheap
way of bumping up the total number of posts and screwing advertisers
for more money.

You did not even stop one board form doing it, much less all the
others, and now you are not only encouraging people to go and harass
the owner, ( if he actually is the owner), but telling them how to go
about it.

WHY?

Mike Connor

[email protected] August 9th, 2008 09:45 AM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 8, 5:26*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op *--of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


Oh and by the way, itīs "integrity", but Iīm not at all surprised you
canīt spell it.

Mike Connor

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 03:07 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"riverman" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 11:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


I would assume that, if you chose to post there, you could create a
new yahoo account and give that as your email addy.

Yeah, I could have re-registered with my ASU account, as well. I just wanted
to look in on discussion, to see what some of it members though about
Dennis' antics.

FWIW, after his off-the-cuff attack, Dennis emailed me personally and
made an offer to bury the hatchet. Sort of a strange guy, that
Dennis.

I have no real interest in continuing as a NEFF member. I will delete the
site from my 'puter.

Op

--riverman



Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 03:12 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


Oh and by the way, itīs "integrity", but Iīm not at all surprised you
canīt spell it.

Mike Connor

This is too funny!

Would you like me to go back through all of your demented posts an point out
the spelling errors for you?

Loony Mike, what a MAROON!

Op



Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 03:26 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.

************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"

************************************************** *******

Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.

Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board.

Thus the reason I don't frequent moderated groups, boards, or forums. Of
course, I'm not a thin-skinned whiney **** like yourself.

Also, I am not the one who has developed an obsessive compulsive disorder
over simple on-line arguments, but yu have!
http://www.ocdcenter.org/?gclid=CIPm...FQ8ZgQodNg5qwg

Quite rightly so if your only reason for going there is to launch personal
attacks.

And I fully expected it to happen, no skin off my nose, as I don't live in
or near NJ, and don't care about their fishing, at present.

What I was alluding to with my post was the date the ban was supposed to
have ended, which it did not.

Now get a life and a mental health professional, soon Mike!

Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?

Oh and by the way, itīs "from", but Iīm not at all surprised an illiterate
Nazi, like yourself
canīt spell it.

Op



[email protected] August 9th, 2008 03:32 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 4:26*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:



Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board.

Thus the reason I don't frequent moderated groups, boards, or forums. *Of
course, I'm not a thin-skinned whiney **** like yourself.

Also, I am not the one who has developed an obsessive compulsive disorder
over simple on-line arguments, but yu have!http://www.ocdcenter.org/?gclid=CIPm...FQ8ZgQodNg5qwg

Quite rightly so if your only reason for going there is to launch personal
attacks.

And I fully expected it to happen, no skin off my nose, as I don't live in
or near NJ, and don't care about their fishing, at present.

What I was alluding to with my post was the date the ban was supposed to
have ended, which it did not.

Now get a life and a mental health professional, soon Mike!

Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?

Oh and by the way, itīs "from", but Iīm not at all surprised an illiterate
Nazi, like yourself
canīt spell it.

Op


Want your name in lights do you? I will be most happy to oblige you.
Also on the German and other boards which Americans frequent.

You are committing a criminal act, also according to your own federal
law, by harassing and defaming me in this manner.

Doubtless you wont learn until you are forced to.

Mike Connor

http://www.mike1.bplaced.net/Wikka/HomePage

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 03:37 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 4:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:



Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date
is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board.

Thus the reason I don't frequent moderated groups, boards, or forums. Of
course, I'm not a thin-skinned whiney **** like yourself.

Also, I am not the one who has developed an obsessive compulsive disorder
over simple on-line arguments, but yu
have!http://www.ocdcenter.org/?gclid=CIPm...FQ8ZgQodNg5qwg

Quite rightly so if your only reason for going there is to launch personal
attacks.

And I fully expected it to happen, no skin off my nose, as I don't live in
or near NJ, and don't care about their fishing, at present.

What I was alluding to with my post was the date the ban was supposed to
have ended, which it did not.

Now get a life and a mental health professional, soon Mike!

Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?

Oh and by the way, itīs "from", but Iīm not at all surprised an illiterate
Nazi, like yourself
canīt spell it.

Op


Want your name in lights do you? I will be most happy to oblige you.
Also on the German and other boards which Americans frequent.

You are committing a criminal act, also according to your own federal
law, by harassing and defaming me in this manner.

Doubtless you wont learn until you are forced to.

Mike Connor

What's that Nazi boy? I can't hear you!

Op



[email protected] August 9th, 2008 03:56 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 4:37 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Aug 9, 4:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:



wrote in message


...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:


Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date
is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board.


Thus the reason I don't frequent moderated groups, boards, or forums. Of
course, I'm not a thin-skinned whiney **** like yourself.


Also, I am not the one who has developed an obsessive compulsive disorder
over simple on-line arguments, but yu
have!http://www.ocdcenter.org/?gclid=CIPm...FQ8ZgQodNg5qwg


Quite rightly so if your only reason for going there is to launch personal
attacks.


And I fully expected it to happen, no skin off my nose, as I don't live in
or near NJ, and don't care about their fishing, at present.


What I was alluding to with my post was the date the ban was supposed to
have ended, which it did not.


Now get a life and a mental health professional, soon Mike!


Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?


Oh and by the way, it$B!-(Bs "from", but I$B!-(Bm not at all surprised an illiterate
Nazi, like yourself
can$B!-(Bt spell it.


Op


Want your name in lights do you? I will be most happy to oblige you.
Also on the German and other boards which Americans frequent.

You are committing a criminal act, also according to your own federal
law, by harassing and defaming me in this manner.

Doubtless you wont learn until you are forced to.

Mike Connor

What's that Nazi boy? I can't hear you!

Op


Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

The ringleader of this campaign, who for reasons known only to himself
is doing his level best to destroy my reputation and cause me
considerable distress. is Kenneth Fortenberry. It seems I have
exhausted all normal avenues in my efforts to stop his lies and
defamation, but there is little I can do as one man. He is also being
assisted and actively encouraged by others, who I will name here
shortly, with their e-mail addresses, and the abuse desk addresses of
their providers if they continue.

Until such time as I resolve this problem, the rest of this website
will be inaccessible to the public. None of the links will work. If
you wish to see it online again, or you are one of the people I have
helped in the past, I am now requesting you to return the favour. You
may also submit your complaints to the FBI at http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx$B!g(B
I have already filed such a complaint. If you wish to refer to this
complaint it is

Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint
Center (IC3). Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please
retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3:
Complaint Id: I0808091045131811

Fortenberry$B!-(Bs e-mail address is

Please address your complaints to the abuse desk at
You may also of course address complaints to the
newsgroup itself, this might at least help to inform some of the
inmates of the seriousness of the matter.

Please don$B!-(Bt send me any more e-mail, I cant answer it all, and it is
merely filling my e-mail boxes.

Thank you for your cooperation and assistance

Mike Connor

http://www.mike1.bplaced.net/Wikka/HomePage

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 04:00 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 4:37 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Aug 9, 4:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:



wrote in message


...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:


Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date
is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board.


Thus the reason I don't frequent moderated groups, boards, or forums.
Of
course, I'm not a thin-skinned whiney **** like yourself.


Also, I am not the one who has developed an obsessive compulsive
disorder
over simple on-line arguments, but yu
have!http://www.ocdcenter.org/?gclid=CIPm...FQ8ZgQodNg5qwg


Quite rightly so if your only reason for going there is to launch
personal
attacks.


And I fully expected it to happen, no skin off my nose, as I don't live
in
or near NJ, and don't care about their fishing, at present.


What I was alluding to with my post was the date the ban was supposed
to
have ended, which it did not.


Now get a life and a mental health professional, soon Mike!


Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?


Oh and by the way, it$B!-(Bs "from", but I$B!-(Bm not at all surprised an
illiterate
Nazi, like yourself
can$B!-(Bt spell it.


Op


Want your name in lights do you? I will be most happy to oblige you.
Also on the German and other boards which Americans frequent.

You are committing a criminal act, also according to your own federal
law, by harassing and defaming me in this manner.

Doubtless you wont learn until you are forced to.

Mike Connor

What's that Nazi boy? I can't hear you!

Op


Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

The ringleader of this campaign, who for reasons known only to himself
is doing his level best to destroy my reputation and cause me
considerable distress. is Kenneth Fortenberry. It seems I have
exhausted all normal avenues in my efforts to stop his lies and
defamation, but there is little I can do as one man. He is also being
assisted and actively encouraged by others, who I will name here
shortly, with their e-mail addresses, and the abuse desk addresses of
their providers if they continue.

Until such time as I resolve this problem, the rest of this website
will be inaccessible to the public. None of the links will work. If
you wish to see it online again, or you are one of the people I have
helped in the past, I am now requesting you to return the favour. You
may also submit your complaints to the FBI at
http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx$B!g(B
I have already filed such a complaint. If you wish to refer to this
complaint it is

Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint
Center (IC3). Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please
retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3:
Complaint Id: I0808091045131811

Fortenberry$B!-(Bs e-mail address is

Please address your complaints to the abuse desk at
You may also of course address complaints to the
newsgroup itself, this might at least help to inform some of the
inmates of the seriousness of the matter.

Please don$B!-(Bt send me any more e-mail, I cant answer it all, and it is
merely filling my e-mail boxes.

Thank you for your cooperation and assistance

Mike Connor


Damn! I **** you off and Fortenberry gets all of the credit?

What's up with that Hitler?

Op



[email protected] August 9th, 2008 04:04 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 5:00 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Aug 9, 4:37 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message


...
On Aug 9, 4:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:


wrote in message


...
On Aug 8, 5:26 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:


Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date
is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op --of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


You would probably get banned from any sensible board.


Thus the reason I don't frequent moderated groups, boards, or forums.
Of
course, I'm not a thin-skinned whiney **** like yourself.


Also, I am not the one who has developed an obsessive compulsive
disorder
over simple on-line arguments, but yu
have!http://www.ocdcenter.org/?gclid=CIPm...FQ8ZgQodNg5qwg


Quite rightly so if your only reason for going there is to launch
personal
attacks.


And I fully expected it to happen, no skin off my nose, as I don't live
in
or near NJ, and don't care about their fishing, at present.


What I was alluding to with my post was the date the ban was supposed
to
have ended, which it did not.


Now get a life and a mental health professional, soon Mike!


Learn that frrm Fortenberry did you? Or is it just one of your many
talents?


Oh and by the way, it$B!-(Bs "from", but I$B!-(Bm not at all surprised an
illiterate
Nazi, like yourself
can$B!-(Bt spell it.


Op


Want your name in lights do you? I will be most happy to oblige you.
Also on the German and other boards which Americans frequent.


You are committing a criminal act, also according to your own federal
law, by harassing and defaming me in this manner.


Doubtless you wont learn until you are forced to.


Mike Connor


What's that Nazi boy? I can't hear you!


Op


Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly


The ringleader of this campaign, who for reasons known only to himself
is doing his level best to destroy my reputation and cause me
considerable distress. is Kenneth Fortenberry. It seems I have
exhausted all normal avenues in my efforts to stop his lies and
defamation, but there is little I can do as one man. He is also being
assisted and actively encouraged by others, who I will name here
shortly, with their e-mail addresses, and the abuse desk addresses of
their providers if they continue.


Until such time as I resolve this problem, the rest of this website
will be inaccessible to the public. None of the links will work. If
you wish to see it online again, or you are one of the people I have
helped in the past, I am now requesting you to return the favour. You
may also submit your complaints to the FBI at
http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx$B!g(B
I have already filed such a complaint. If you wish to refer to this
complaint it is


Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint
Center (IC3). Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please
retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3:
Complaint Id: I0808091045131811


Fortenberry$B!-(Bs e-mail address is


Please address your complaints to the abuse desk at
You may also of course address complaints to the
newsgroup itself, this might at least help to inform some of the
inmates of the seriousness of the matter.


Please don$B!-(Bt send me any more e-mail, I cant answer it all, and it is
merely filling my e-mail boxes.


Thank you for your cooperation and assistance


Mike Connor


Damn! I **** you off and Fortenberry gets all of the credit?

What's up with that Hitler?

Op


Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

The ringleader of this campaign, who for reasons known only to himself
is doing his level best to destroy my reputation and cause me
considerable distress. is Kenneth Fortenberry. It seems I have
exhausted all normal avenues in my efforts to stop his lies and
defamation, but there is little I can do as one man. He is also being
assisted and actively encouraged by others, who I will name here
shortly, with their e-mail addresses, and the abuse desk addresses of
their providers if they continue.

Until such time as I resolve this problem, the rest of this website
will be inaccessible to the public. None of the links will work. If
you wish to see it online again, or you are one of the people I have
helped in the past, I am now requesting you to return the favour. You
may also submit your complaints to the FBI at http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx?
I have already filed such a complaint. If you wish to refer to this
complaint it is

Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint
Center (IC3). Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please
retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3:
Complaint Id: I0808091045131811

Fortenberry$B!-(Bs e-mail address is

Please address your complaints to the abuse desk at
You may also of course address complaints to the
newsgroup itself, this might at least help to inform some of the
inmates of the seriousness of the matter.

Please don$B!-(Bt send me any more e-mail, I cant answer it all, and it is
merely filling my e-mail boxes.

Thank you for your cooperation and assistance

Mike Connor

http://www.mike1.bplaced.net/Wikka/HomePage

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 04:12 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
news:266c5445-3fc0-4796-910b-

TOO, TOO FUNNY!

Op



[email protected] August 9th, 2008 04:18 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 5:12*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

news:266c5445-3fc0-4796-910b-

TOO, TOO FUNNY!

Op


Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

The ringleader of this campaign, who for reasons known only to himself
is doing his level best to destroy my reputation and cause me
considerable distress. is Kenneth Fortenberry. It seems I have
exhausted all normal avenues in my efforts to stop his lies and
defamation, but there is little I can do as one man. He is also being
assisted and actively encouraged by others, who I will name here
shortly, with their e-mail addresses, and the abuse desk addresses of
their providers if they continue.

Until such time as I resolve this problem, the rest of this website
will be inaccessible to the public. None of the links will work. If
you wish to see it online again, or you are one of the people I have
helped in the past, I am now requesting you to return the favour. You
may also submit your complaints to the FBI at http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx?
I have already filed such a complaint. If you wish to refer to this
complaint it is

Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint
Center (IC3). Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please
retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3:
Complaint Id: I0808091045131811

Fortenberryīs e-mail address is

Please address your complaints to the abuse desk at
You may also of course address complaints to the
newsgroup itself, this might at least help to inform some of the
inmates of the seriousness of the matter.

Please donīt send me any more e-mail, I cant answer it all, and it is
merely filling my e-mail boxes.

Thank you for your cooperation and assistance

Mike Connor

http://www.mike1.bplaced.net/Wikka/HomePage

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 04:48 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:
wrote in message

news:266c5445-3fc0-4796-910b-

TOO, TOO FUNNY!

Op


Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

MUCH TWO PHUNNIE!

Op



rw August 9th, 2008 04:52 PM

NEFF Banning
 
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:

wrote in message

news:266c5445-3fc0-4796-910b-

TOO, TOO FUNNY!

Op



Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

MUCH TWO PHUNNIE!

Op



Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Fred August 9th, 2008 04:56 PM

NEFF Banning
 

On 9-Aug-2008, rw wrote:

Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Sad, but true


Fred

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 04:56 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 5:12 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote:

wrote in message

news:266c5445-3fc0-4796-910b-

TOO, TOO FUNNY!

Op



Ladies and Gentlemen, as some of you may know, I am being subjected to
a campaign of incessant defamation, insults, and lies, in a number of
places, all originating and fuelled by the International Public
Newsgroup ROFF rec.outdoors.fishing.fly

MUCH TWO PHUNNIE!

Op


Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.

It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.

Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.

Op



rw August 9th, 2008 05:03 PM

NEFF Banning
 
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.



Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.

It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.

Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.

Op



Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[email protected] August 9th, 2008 05:07 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 6:03*pm, rw wrote:
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
om...


Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.


It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.


Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.


Op


Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


Have a nice trip.

I am really sorry about all this you know, but I donīt see any
alternative.

Mike Connor


Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 05:12 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.



Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.

It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.

Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.

Op


Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser and
Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows, grayling,
char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums thrown in.
Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state of affairs by
the time I return, but I doubt it.


I'm very happy for you, but I pity your fishing companions must endurer your
boorishness.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.


Back at ya, Mother Teresa.

Op



Dave LaCourse August 9th, 2008 05:14 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:52:38 -0700, rw
wrote:

Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


With two trip reports from Tom Lysyk and Tom Littleton, a wonderful
posting by Wolfgang, and some asking for advice on kids' fishing from
Scott, I'd say your complaint is full of ****. If you are so
concerned about the ng, post something about fishing rather than your
usual political blather.

Dave



Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 05:15 PM

NEFF Banning
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 6:03 pm, rw wrote:
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
om...


Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.


It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.


Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.


Op


Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


Have a nice trip.

I am really sorry about all this you know, but I donīt see any
alternative.

Mike Connor

A very rational and sensible post, which I read several times and
digested thoroughly. It is truly a pity that you have no influence on
your sick ****bag mother****er of a friend (rw).

Why donīt you write him a similar epistle on the virtues of honour and
common sense?

If i thought that what I did was dishonourable, I simply wouldnīt do
it.

What you think about what I should think or do, while interesting, is
completely irrelevant.

Op



rw August 9th, 2008 06:34 PM

NEFF Banning
 
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
news:r7adnUNLzpjYIADVnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@earthlink .com...


Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.

It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.

Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.

Op


Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser and
Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows, grayling,
char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums thrown in.
Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state of affairs by
the time I return, but I doubt it.



I'm very happy for you, but I pity your fishing companions must endurer your
boorishness.


Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.



Back at ya, Mother Teresa.


Just a little thin skinned, eh?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw August 9th, 2008 06:40 PM

NEFF Banning
 
wrote:
On Aug 9, 6:03 pm, rw wrote:

Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



Have a nice trip.

I am really sorry about all this you know, but I donīt see any
alternative.

Mike Connor


I won't add fuel to the fire by insulting you. Both sides are equally
culpable.

It's like you all are having a ****ting contest in a public park.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 08:29 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
On Aug 9, 6:03 pm, rw wrote:

Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



Have a nice trip.

I am really sorry about all this you know, but I donīt see any
alternative.

Mike Connor


I won't add fuel to the fire by insulting you. Both sides are equally
culpable.

It's like you all are having a ****ting contest in a public park.


Yes, and you came to referee.

How's it feel to bepart of the publc park ****ting contest?

Op



[email protected] August 9th, 2008 08:36 PM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 9:03*am, rw wrote:
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
om...


Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.


It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.


Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.


Op


Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sounds like hard duty. Too bad you guys will miss the National Carp
Finals in Bayonne, N.J.. Lefty will be there demo-ing his new turd fly
casting technique in his leg brace and slicker. Well, someone has to
cover Alaska and it looks like you folks drew the short straws. Try
to make the best of it.
Dave

Opus--Mark H. Bowen August 9th, 2008 08:42 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
news:r7adnUNLzpjYIADVnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@earthlin k.com...


Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Yes, and you are such a breath of fresh air.

It's hypocrites like yourself that make it all worthwhile.

Now go back to swooning pre-teen girls, you dumbo.

Op

Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser and
Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows, grayling,
char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums thrown in.
Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state of affairs by
the time I return, but I doubt it.



I'm very happy for you, but I pity your fishing companions must endurer
your boorishness.


Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.



Back at ya, Mother Teresa.


Just a little thin skinned, eh?


Not at all. But then again, I'm not the one complaining about a ****-fest.

If you were as pure as the driven snow, your whine might have a bit more
import. Alas, you are complaining about a ****-fest in which you have
actually participated.

Remember this:
************************************************** *********************************************
wrote:

IAC, as unmoderated electronic forums go, this place is pretty tame.
From what I've seen over the last 10-plus years around here, I'd say
that his overall conduct was among the "worst" (yes, I realize "worst"
covers a lot of subjective ground), if not the worst, I've seen and that
even includes that of Gehrke, the dwarf who had Zimmerman's 'boo, that
dip**** from Atlanta (no, not Charlie, the other one...and a preemptive
"**** you Choc"...) and assorted drop-ins (Tony Germurga, etc.).
Your, er, kilometers may vary,


I'd add rdean's race baiting.
--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

But wait.................there's more. A different thread, but still a
****-fest you chose to participate in.

************************************************** ******************************************
Tom Littleton wrote:
"daytripper" wrote in message
...

As for "we suffer with high gas prices", you've never lost an opportunity
to
tell everyone here how wealthy you think you are, so should you really be
including yourself in that "we"?


well,'tripper, he does only buy high-octane.....g


POTM

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

************************************************** ***********************************************
I can't believe this, there is even a thread that you started that had
nothing to do with fly fishing! How could this be,
Stevie? You are such a ROFF purist.

With the stunning indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens (R AK), it's become
more plausible that Alaska will go for Obama (in addition to changing
the name of the Anchorage airport).

Alaska has three electoral votes and a population of about 684,000. An
Alaska resident has nearly three times the voting power for president of
a resident of California, and MORE than three times the voting power for
president of a resident of Texas.

In my dreams, Obama will win with a majority of electoral votes and a
minority of popular votes. That would be sweet revenge. I can already
hear the screams from the hypocritical right wing.

Maybe such an outcome would result in reform of the stupid electoral system.

----
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Please Stevie, save us you holier than thou protestation!

Op




rw August 9th, 2008 10:00 PM

NEFF Banning
 
wrote:


Sounds like hard duty. Too bad you guys will miss the National Carp
Finals in Bayonne, N.J..


Do you mean the International Finals in Bayonne, France?

http://www.swlchalet.co.uk/

Lefty will be there demo-ing his new turd fly
casting technique in his leg brace and slicker. Well, someone has to
cover Alaska and it looks like you folks drew the short straws. Try
to make the best of it.
Dave


I'll try to have another big fish photo for Wolfgang when I return. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] August 9th, 2008 10:09 PM

NEFF Banning
 
rw wrote:

Both Mike Connor and the bozos like you and Fortenberry and others who
enjoy poking sticks at him have succeeded in ruining ROFF for any
meaningful discussion of any topic worthy of interest. Congratulations.


Nobody can ruin roff for those who want to have fly fishing
discussions. Just start discussing away, what's stopping you ?

As for poking the Loony, anyone here is capable of setting him
off on a foul-mouthed tirade. He's so thin-skinned, full of
himself, and quick-tempered that he's a spectacle waiting to
happen. Most poke him accidentally and unintentionally and
some, like myself, poke him intentionally but it really makes
no difference he's basically self-pokable.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tim Lysyk August 9th, 2008 10:19 PM

NEFF Banning
 
rw wrote:

Actually, I'm off to Alaska tomorrow morning, meeting up with Bruiser
and Willi and Bevin to float the Kisaralik for silvers, rainbows,
grayling, char, and pike, with maybe some lake trout, pinks, and chums
thrown in. Perfect timing. Maybe ROFF will return to some decent state
of affairs by the time I return, but I doubt it.

Ta ta. Enjoy yourselves.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.



Good luck on your trip. I hope you enjoy yourselves, and will let us
know how you made out.

My regards to Willi and the rest. I always appreciated their posts.

Tim Lysyk

Dave LaCourse August 10th, 2008 12:56 AM

NEFF Banning
 
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:07:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I am really sorry about all this you know, but I donīt see any
alternative.


Buy a clue mike. Here's one, for FREE: leave



riverman August 10th, 2008 04:05 AM

NEFF Banning
 
On Aug 9, 4:41*pm, wrote:
On Aug 9, 6:48*am, riverman wrote:





On Aug 8, 11:26*pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:


Apparently, once one is ban from NEFF, no matter what the banned date is,
one is banned forever.


************************************************** ********
"vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
Personal attack - keep that crap on the usenet


Date the ban will be lifted: 08-05-2008, 08:00 AM"


************************************************** *******


Yep, 'ol Dennis the Menace is a man of virtue, honor, and integrety.


Op *--of course the I have been plotting big trouble for moose and
squirrel!--


I would assume that, if you chose to post there, you could create a
new yahoo account and give that as your email addy.


FWIW, after his off-the-cuff attack, Dennis emailed me personally and
made an offer to bury the hatchet. Sort of a strange guy, that
Dennis.


--riverman


Myron, having spent some time with you, I thought you were a pretty
decent bloke, sensible, talented, and basically just a nice guy.

Can you tell me why you would encourage that stupid asshole to go and
harass somebody on another board? *Apart from the fact that your
suggestion of simply getting another account at Yahoo fortunately won
īt work as boards log IPīs.

The stupid ******* went to that the board with the express purpose of
harassing people, and getting banned, and he is also defaming the
board owner here on this board.

If you people had been sensible in the first place, and not allowed
yourselves to be whipped up and manipulated by Fortenberry, none of
this would have occurred.

Something else which I am curious about, as a schoolteacher at an
international school, how can you even take the risk of consorting
with some of the **** on this board?

This group, and many others, are fed all over the place, it is a cheap
way of bumping up the total number of posts and screwing advertisers
for more money.

You did not even stop one board form doing it, much less all the
others, and now you are not only encouraging people to go and harass
the owner, ( if he actually is the owner), but telling them how to go
about it.

WHY?

Mike Connor- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Mike, I'm not encouraging him to go harass folks. If anything, I'm
speaking from a mix of personal desire and reflecting on the
reasonableness of Tom Littleton, who I believe is also banned, as I
am. I wouldn't mind being able to post there, as it seems that some of
the regulars on NEFF seem like pretty reasonable folks with things to
contribute. And being a New Englander, I fish some of the same waters
regularly.

If Op brings a different agenda, then it might be my fault for not
realizing it: I haven't kept up with the hundreds of posts on this
issue in the past week, nor do I keep a accurate mental log of who
says what. However, he has never been a 'stupid asshole' to me, nor do
I inherently think of him that way. I might be wrong on that; time
will certainly tell. :-)

But if anything, my Internationalism tells me that the extremists in
each camp should not be the ones to define the actual gross
relationships. Certainly there were folks in NEFF who enjoyed fanning
the flames, as Ken is prone to do here. But neither Ken nor that bozo
on NEFF should define how the two groups should interact, neither
should the folks who are flaming you define how others here feel about
you. You can count on me, for example, to not jump on any pigpile with
you on the bottom. Although your actions seem extreme and erratic to
me at times, unlike most of the folks here, I know your expertise and
generosity, and find those unassailable. And I can separate behaviors
from the person...you are, and remain, a friend of mine.

Myron


Fred August 10th, 2008 07:21 AM

NEFF Banning
 

On 8-Aug-2008, wrote:

Forteneberry simply started again.

he is a lying dishonourable piece of stinking ****e, and I am going to
keep on telling everybody that for as long as I have the wherewithal
to do so.

As I told you before, iof you donīt like it, then **** off.

Mike Connor


Tom Littleton August 10th, 2008 01:30 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"riverman" wrote in message
...
Mike, I'm not encouraging him to go harass folks. If anything, I'm
speaking from a mix of personal desire and reflecting on the
reasonableness of Tom Littleton, who I believe is also banned, as I
am. I wouldn't mind being able to post there, as it seems that some of
the regulars on NEFF seem like pretty reasonable folks with things to
contribute. And being a New Englander, I fish some of the same waters
regularly.


actually, I have never been banned from NEFF(pretty good restraint on their
part, over the first few days). My stuff from here, or ROFFT, is blocked
from publication onto NEFF, at my request. I would echo your comments about
the vast number of NEFF posters.
Tom



Wolfgang August 11th, 2008 02:43 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...


I'll try to have another big fish photo for Wolfgang when I return. :-)


More festering rage in one short sentence than the rest of you have been
able to express in weeks of slapstick. Y'all have got a lot to learn about
creative impotence.

Wolfgang



Frank Reid Đ 2008 August 11th, 2008 03:54 PM

NEFF Banning
 
I'll try to have another big fish photo for Wolfgang when I return. :-)

More festering rage in one short sentence than the rest of you have been
able to express in weeks of slapstick. *Y'all have got a lot to learn about
creative impotence.

Wolfgang


Ah, the lone wolf returns after summering on the tundra. Good to see
you back, my friend.
Since you probably missed it, here is the t-shirt my bride just got
me.
http://lifeiscrap.shop.musictoday.co...732&pc=5LCT011
Frank Reid



Wolfgang August 11th, 2008 04:12 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"Frank Reid Đ 2008" wrote in message
...
I'll try to have another big fish photo for Wolfgang when I return. :-)


More festering rage in one short sentence than the rest of you have been
able to express in weeks of slapstick. Y'all have got a lot to learn about
creative impotence.

Wolfgang


Ah, the lone wolf returns after summering on the tundra. Good to see
you back, my friend.
Since you probably missed it, here is the t-shirt my bride just got
me.
http://lifeiscrap.shop.musictoday.co...732&pc=5LCT011

That's not funny. :(

Wolfgang
who, having spent the summer engaged in a program of admirable and edifying
pursuits aimed at
self-improvement with an eye toward the betterment of mankind, had hoped to
return to a kinder and friendlier roff......sigh.



Tom Littleton August 11th, 2008 10:20 PM

NEFF Banning
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

who, having spent the summer engaged in a program of admirable and
edifying pursuits aimed at
self-improvement with an eye toward the betterment of mankind, had hoped
to return to a kinder and friendlier roff......sigh.


I have always appreciated your dry humor....g
Tom




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