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Fly-tying ROFFians,

I was wondering what the latest word is on how many flies we should
tie for the big swap. I know there has been talk from the new
swapmeister(s) of limiting it to 25, and I've already got 25+ of my
pattern tied, but I need to know if I should keep going or not.


Chuck Vance (who's starting to wonder if he should have tied
glo-bugs instead of PMD cripples)

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"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message
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Fly-tying ROFFians,

I was wondering what the latest word is on how many flies we should
tie for the big swap. I know there has been talk from the new
swapmeister(s) of limiting it to 25, and I've already got 25+ of my
pattern tied, but I need to know if I should keep going or not.

Yeah - it would *almost* tempt some to wait for an official announcement, eh?
;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message
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Fly-tying ROFFians,

I was wondering what the latest word is on how many flies we should
tie for the big swap. I know there has been talk from the new
swapmeister(s) of limiting it to 25, and I've already got 25+ of my
pattern tied, but I need to know if I should keep going or not.


The official un-official word is that Joe Fleischman is going to run the
Great 2004 Fly Swap. I would expect an signup announcement on January 1.
That's still 2.5 weeks away. And whenever it officially starts you will
still have many weeks to do your tying...

Actual rules and any limit on number of tyers will be Joe's decision. If
anybody has ideas about rules, etc. you might as well post them now.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

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"Stan Gula" wrote in message
The official un-official word is that Joe Fleischman is going to run the
Great 2004 Fly Swap. I would expect an signup announcement on January 1.
That's still 2.5 weeks away. And whenever it officially starts you will
still have many weeks to do your tying...

Unofficially, Stan is correct. Through consultation with the highest
authorities (Tim & Stan), I will be assuming the mantle of swapmeister for
the FS2004. However, inasmuch as the popularity of this swap is also its
drawback from a workload perspective, the official announcement will
endeavor to keep the required quantity down to a mangeable level for the
tiers without limiting the number of participants. Some trick, eh?

Jan. 1 boyos.

Joe F.

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Conan The Libraian wrote:snipI've already got 25+ of my
pattern tied, but I need to know if I should keep going or not.


Chuck Vance (who's starting to wonder if he should have tied
glo-bugs instead of PMD cripples)

I would say keep tying. Whenever I fish in The Rockies, I always wish I had
tied more. The PMD hatch has always been my favorite to fish when in Montana.

Big Dale

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Tim J. wrote:

Yeah - it would *almost* tempt some to wait for an official announcement, eh?
;-)

Smartass. :-) Yeah, you're right. I was just afraid I had missed
the message written in super-secret ROFF Cabal code that signaled the
beginning of the swap.


Chuck Vance (TINC)

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Conan The Librarian wrote:

Tim J. wrote:

Yeah - it would *almost* tempt some to wait for an official announcement, eh?
;-)

Smartass. :-) Yeah, you're right. I was just afraid I had missed
the message written in super-secret ROFF Cabal code that signaled the
beginning of the swap.

Can't blame a guy for trying. Me, I'm countin' on the Kiwis and Aussies
not takin' all the spots before midnight 01/01/04 reaches here. g

JR
--thinkin' the West Coasters should in all fairness be allowed to sign up
for '05......

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"JR" wrote...
Conan The Librarian wrote:

Tim J. wrote:

Yeah - it would *almost* tempt some to wait for an official announcement,
eh?
;-)

Smartass. :-) Yeah, you're right. I was just afraid I had missed
the message written in super-secret ROFF Cabal code that signaled the
beginning of the swap.

Can't blame a guy for trying. Me, I'm countin' on the Kiwis and Aussies
not takin' all the spots before midnight 01/01/04 reaches here. g

JR
--thinkin' the West Coasters should in all fairness be allowed to sign up
for '05......

According to the new, new swapmeister, he's arrived at some magic that will
allow all willing participants while keeping the number of flies tied to a
manageable number. Damned smarty-pants engineers! :)
--
TL,
Tim
who is breaking out his ol' slide rule should it become a requirement for the
swap.
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Tim J." wrote:

According to the new, new swapmeister, he's arrived at some magic that will
allow all willing participants while keeping the number of flies tied to a
manageable number. Damned smarty-pants engineers! :)

I heard, but the real magic will be to do all that AND maintain the
requisite aura of exclusivity. ;)
This ain't swingin' by Wally World for some Power-Bait.

JR
--not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.....

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i reckon the swap is self limiting cos those who find it too many to tie
will not put their hands up to join

"Big Dale" wrote in message
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Conan The Libraian wrote:snipI've already got 25+ of my
pattern tied, but I need to know if I should keep going or not.


Chuck Vance (who's starting to wonder if he should have tied
glo-bugs instead of PMD cripples)

I would say keep tying. Whenever I fish in The Rockies, I always wish I
had
tied more. The PMD hatch has always been my favorite to fish when in
Montana.

Big Dale

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Warren wrote in message . ..

Read: Keep going! If you already have 25+ done BEFORE the swap is
even officially announced, there is no damn reason why you can't do
60!

Well, yeah ... except I'll probably run out of #16 hooks and
proper-sized hackle for the d*mn*d things. ;-)

Perhaps we can make it optional to be in *both* groups if that
may be the case??????? G

I admit that would be tempting, but like someone (Willi?) said, it
starts to seem like work after a couple dozen or so. Heck, if it
wasn't for the fact that I tie in my workshop with a colebeer by my
side, I'd probably have given up long ago. :-)


Chuck Vance (not that I'm complaining, mind you ... I'm getting
to where I can tie a pretty good Quigley; now I just need to go
somewhere where there's a PMD hatch)

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Warren wrote in message . ..

Jan. 1 boyos.

Ummmmmm, what's the deadline for those of us not yet old enough to
fart dust and who will be out "celebrating" and probably not arrive
home until the night of the 1st or morning of the 2nd?????

Yeah, or those of us who will be in the Big Bend without net-access
until Jan. 3rd?


Chuck Vance (who wonders what he'll do with 28 #16 PMDs if he
misses the swap)

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Conan the Librarian wrote:snipI'll probably run out of #16 hooks and
proper-sized hackle for the d*mn*d things. ;-)

You might try upsizing to a size 4 and tying a few to try during a hex hatch. I
had a friend that found a size 4 adams worked on Town Lake a few years ago
during a hex hatch.

Just trying to help.

Big Dale

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Warren wrote:So what do you do, tie up a dozen for every 20 years? You gonna
get
your ass back up here or what dammit?!?!?!
--
Warren (looking forward to seeing you in July and should have
probably checked the FFF
I marked the date on the calander that lives in the office at my house this
morning. I have tried to get back to the Jellystone area with a fly rod at
least every 3 years since 1954 and see no reason to quit now. Expect to see me
on an old BMW motorcycle this year as I plan on going over to Seattle after the
clave...Ihave never ridden from there to San Diego before and have wanted to do
that run all of my life. I have become a bit jaded on the FFF International
Conclave as they seem to discourage those that prefer fishing for warm water
fishes.

Big Dale

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Big Dale wrote:

You might try upsizing to a size 4 and tying a few to try during a hex hatch. I
had a friend that found a size 4 adams worked on Town Lake a few years ago
during a hex hatch.

Wow, tying a #4 *anything* would be a treat after 28 of those #16's.
:-) I've been tying parachute Adams for visibility, but even I
probably could manage to see a #4 Adams.

So, anyone want to have a flyswap that's nothing but oversize
versions of classic dries? ;-)


Chuck Vance (no, I'm not volunteering to be the swapmeister)

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Warren wrote:snipThere
really isn't all that much warm water fishing up here so I doubt it
is much of a serious issue for most people. There are supposedly
ponds up here that have perch and some bass, but they are few and far
between. I haven't found any around here, but it sure would be nice
to find a few.
--
Warren
I read that Gary LaFontaine was working on a book about bass fishing and I wish
that he could have completed that project. Perhaps Craig Matthews or Scott
Sanchez could help. I know that Scott was exposed to bass fishing while he
lived in Texas.

The FFF claims to be for all fish in all waters, yet when I o to their
International Conclave I seldom see anyone tying warmwater or sal****er flies.
I doubt if 2% there tie those type of flies. They simply don't invite them to
tie, of course the obvious exception is Billy Munn and you should never pass on
the chance to watch the world's best do deer hair.

Big Dale

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Warren wrote:snipI wouldn't go to Texas for a FFF Conclave if my interest was
trout
fishing even though they claimed to be "for all fish in all waters."
I imagine that they limit the subjects to mostly trout fishing at the
conclave held here because that is what is bringing in the people to
the event.
--

People come from all over the world and expect to see warmwater as well as
sal****er as well as trout. That is why they call it their International
conclave.

Big Dale

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Warren wrote:snipSo if I hold an International (meaning everyone is welcome)
ROFF
Conclave up here, will you expect me to get you into bass, tarpon,
bones, salmon and steelhead? ;-)


No. But if you were the FFF and claimed that the best tyers in the world would
be tying and did not have a representative mix of cold water, warmwater and
sal****er tiers it would wseem that you were only meeting about a third of your
obligations.

Big Dale

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hmmm... gettin a mite testy and yer panties in a bunch over sumthin that
seems within the bounds of reason, ain't ya warren? creeks iced over?
elk elude you? work got you down? go rent "seabiscuit" and watch it
with your daughter? man, that was an uplifting movie.

btw...are you doing any guide work out in montana? hunting or fishing?

jeff

Warren wrote:
ospam wrote...

Warren wrote:snipSo if I hold an International (meaning everyone is welcome)
ROFF

Conclave up here, will you expect me to get you into bass, tarpon,
bones, salmon and steelhead? ;-)


No. But if you were the FFF and claimed that the best tyers in the world would
be tying and did not have a representative mix of cold water, warmwater and
sal****er tiers it would wseem that you were only meeting about a third of your
obligations.


Okay, okay, okay. I submit. Tiers for warm water, sal****er,
freakin' sewer water for all I care should be there. As I said
before, I'm not a member and really don't give a rat's ass about the
FFF or their conclaves. I am sorry that their conclaves bug you so
much. Perhaps you should find an organization that better suits your
particular interests if the FFF is ****ing you off so much.

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Warren wrote:


btw...are you doing any guide work out in montana? hunting or fishing?


Possibly this summer. I hope to be doing it at least part time but
am starting to get too many brands in the fire.

i've talked to a couple of folks who have montana plans in your area...
let me know if and where you get set up, and i'll give them the info.

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