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Did some driving today, talked to two shop owners and have devised
what I think could be considered a *plan*. Subject to approval, of
course.

Departure Point = New Berlin. According to Mapquest, the trip from
Coburn to New Berlin is just over 30 miles and about an hour long.
There's a park just downstream of the PA204 bridge that has a crude
boat ramp. It's a very public area right behind the American Legion
bldg. Should be practically zero risk of vandalism, etc. while we're
gone.

Destination = Kratzerville. Should be about a 6 mile float with lots
of excellent fishing. No boat ramp at the departure point, but we're
not exactly hauling 200hp Bass 'n' Ski boats. This is private land
but is supposedly OK as a landing area. I will make a point to knock
on a door or two before clave time to ask permission.

The drive from Kratzerville to New Berlin is short - 12 minutes
according to Mapquest.

Here's a link to a map of the area:
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18...& datum=nad83

By canoe, I can provide floatation for one other angler and can also
carry a cooler.

Flies: Ted recommended wet flies - big ones - preferably a cast of
2-3. He likes yellow on this creek at this time. He also recommended
a Reub Wood.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/feat...es/part99.html
Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Looking forward to it,
Tom G

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Tom Gibson wrote:
snip
Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Well, my M certainly V's.

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

Never mind, don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Tom Gibson wrote:
snip
Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Well, my M certainly V's.

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

Never mind, don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?


Wolfgang

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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!
...

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

But I repeat myself.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!
...

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

But I repeat myself.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you like and
what you don't? Don't bother.......you wouldn't like it.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

Eat ****. Die slow. Nobody cares what you think is proper. Clear?

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

ARE YOU CRAZY !!!!!

But I repeat myself.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you like and
what you don't? snip

May I play through? :) I was thinking as I read about the float trip that it
would really make for a pleasant change of pace at Penns. Since youze guyz will
be there for a week or better anyway, a little smallie action should be a nice
shift. Good luck.

But then again, I'd be the guy searching for a hot dog in Paris.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Tim J." wrote in message
...


May I play through? :) I was thinking as I read about the float
trip that it
would really make for a pleasant change of pace at Penns. Since
youze guyz will
be there for a week or better anyway, a little smallie action should
be a nice
shift. Good luck.

Thanks.

But then again, I'd be the guy searching for a hot dog in Paris.

A quick Google search turned up 723 hits on Saucisse de Francfort.

Good luck! :)

Wolfgang
who will refrain from pointing out that paris is unlikely to be the
best place to look for the one and only true authentic hot dog......or
ANY of the one and only true authentic hot dogs, for that matter.

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"Wolfgang"


But then again, I'd be the guy searching for a hot dog in Paris.

A quick Google search turned up 723 hits on Saucisse de Francfort.

Good luck! :)

Wolfgang
who will refrain from pointing out that paris is unlikely to be the
best place to look for the one and only true authentic hot dog......or
ANY of the one and only true authentic hot dogs, for that matter.
Indian Joe remembers---seems like many Americans visiting Paris go to
McDonalds for american made dogs--i only stopped to use the clean bathroom.
But i did order a German spring sausage someplace--the ingrediants were
chopper rather than ground- ah a piece of lung--some more heart--a little
piece of goider.

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"Wolfgang" wrote...
snip
Wolfgang
who will refrain from pointing out that . . .

:)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you like and
what you don't? Don't bother.......you wouldn't like it.

You don't get it. I LOVE baseball.

Better go back to being incomprehensible, inscrutable just ain't gonna
work for you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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In article ,
lid says...


But then again, I'd be the guy searching for a hot dog in Paris.


I, in fact, have eaten a hot dog in Paris. It wasn't by choice,
we were in a hurry and the first street vendor we came across was
selling hot dogs. It was a fascinating example of cultural differences
though.

First, they whacked a hot dog sized section off a baguette, and then
they jammed this long pointed metal rod thingy into one end and pushed
it almost to the other end. Then they pushed a button on the metal
rod thingy aforementioned and it steamed the bread from the inside,
so it was all warm and moist on the inside, after which they jammed
the hot dog down into the hole (sorry if this is starting to sound
pornographic.)

After all that, they asked if we wanted mustard or ketchup. We told
them we wanted both, and they looked at us like we were escaped mental
patients.

Kevin

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote in message . com...
Tom Gibson wrote:
snip
Of course poppers, buggers, hellgramites, crayfish and locusts may
also be effective. Stiff leaders and strong tippet material
recommended. 0X-2X?

As always, YMMV.

Well, my M certainly V's.

Can I call 'em or what?

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

Why limit yourself to "some of the finest trout waters..." when only a
few miles downsteam are some of the finest smallmouth bass waters...
But then again, aren't you the guy that prefers one and only one brand
of beer? Me, I'm with Morgan Freeman's character in "Robin Hood" when
he says Allah loves wondrous variety. I happen to enjoy more than one
type of fishing and nearly all types of beer.

Oh, and that's "wet flies" not "****in' wooly buggers". G

And yes, we are all most definitely crazy, some more than others...

Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message . com...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

It's like going to Paris and saying, yeah, the Louvre is cool, the
restaurants are nice and the sidewalk cafes are neat but we really
have to set aside one day to take in a baseball game.

Ever wonder what it would be like to decide for yourself what you
like and
what you don't? Don't bother.......you wouldn't like it.

You don't get it. I LOVE baseball.

So, who told you.....Dougie? And so what? What's to get? Do you
really believe that anyone cares how you feel about baseball.....or
Paris.....or bruschetta? Ever wonder what it would be like to decide
for yourself what you like and what you don't? Ask around. Lots of
people decide these things for themselves. In short, you are
superfluous......you STILL don't have a reason to live......well,
other than worshipping Dougie, that is. Frankly, I don't think that's
enough. But, I guess you take what you can get, huh?

Better go back to being incomprehensible, inscrutable just ain't
gonna
work for you.

Uh huh.

Wolfgang

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
lid says...


But then again, I'd be the guy searching for a hot dog in Paris.


I, in fact, have eaten a hot dog in Paris. It wasn't by choice,
we were in a hurry and the first street vendor we came across was
selling hot dogs. It was a fascinating example of cultural differences
though.

First, they whacked a hot dog sized section off a baguette, and then
they jammed this long pointed metal rod thingy into one end and pushed
it almost to the other end. Then they pushed a button on the metal
rod thingy aforementioned and it steamed the bread from the inside,
so it was all warm and moist on the inside, after which they jammed
the hot dog down into the hole (sorry if this is starting to sound
pornographic.)

After all that, they asked if we wanted mustard or ketchup. We told
them we wanted both, and they looked at us like we were escaped mental
patients.

Only an escaped mental patient would put ketchup on a hot dog.

I have a co-worker who is a retired NYPD cop, I also have a wife who
puts ketchup on hotdogs. The Newyawker is a hotdog eating fanatic, he refers
to the product sold by street venders as "dirty water dawgs". One time we
were all having a dog together at a local stand and he was aghast that my
wife puts ketchup on hers. He said, "Back home, if you asks for ketchup at a
hotdog stand they'll tell ya "If you want ketchup, take your miserable ass
across the street to McDonalds, dey got ketchup there"".

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Wolfgang wrote:
snip
In short, ...

Now, THAT'S funny.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Tom Gibson wrote:


Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

and...um...have you found a sufficient supply of boats for those of us
who are looking forward to being able to ride in a boat that we can get
into and out of the creek? Joe and I need a ride (well...joe seemed a
bit uncertain, so i'll let him speak for himself... but i'll need a ride
all around. wolf...are you drivin?

jeff (who has no interest in Paris...but loves hot dogs with ketchup...
obviously, i pass the penns' bronzeback school of dunces entrance exam)

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Joe McIntosh wrote:

"Wolfgang"


Indian Joe remembers---seems like many Americans visiting Paris go to
McDonalds for american made dogs--i only stopped to use the clean bathroom.
But i did order a German spring sausage someplace--the ingrediants were
chopper rather than ground- ah a piece of lung--some more heart--a little
piece of goider.

hmmm...didn't realize there was a secondary market for the remains of
wolfie's lab projects... but Paris seems a fitting place to send the stuff.

jeff

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Tom Gibson wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Some of you guys are traveling great distances to fish some of the
finest trout waters in the eastern half of North America and you're
gonna go chuck ****in' wooly buggers to small mouth friggin' bass ?!?

Why limit yourself to "some of the finest trout waters..." when only a
few miles downsteam are some of the finest smallmouth bass waters...

Same reason I wouldn't go to a four star restaurant and order a double
cheeseburger, I guess. Not that there's anything wrong with double
cheeseburgers, you understand.

But then again, aren't you the guy that prefers one and only one brand
of beer? ...

Yep, that's me. I have been known to drink something other than Budweiser
but that's what I prefer.

Oh, and that's "wet flies" not "****in' wooly buggers". G

I stand corrected. ;-)

And yes, we are all most definitely crazy, some more than others...

Truer words were never spoken.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Tom Gibson wrote:
waters..." when only a
few miles downsteam are some of the finest smallmouth bass waters...

Same reason I wouldn't go to a four star restaurant and order a double
cheeseburger, I guess. Not that there's anything wrong with double
cheeseburgers, you understand.
Snippage

But I would expect that even you after spending a week eating at he same
four star restaurant, might opt to seek a change of pace with another
cuisine.

--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

place a dot between bobs and stuff and remove invalid to send email

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Same reason I wouldn't go to a four star restaurant and order a double
cheeseburger, I guess. Not that there's anything wrong with double
cheeseburgers, you understand.

Snippage

But I would expect that even you after spending a week eating at he same
four star restaurant, might opt to seek a change of pace with another
cuisine.

Well, a trout stream changes menus a lot more often than a four star
restaurant. I can fish the same stretch of trout stream daily for months
and not feel the need for a "change of pace." That's the way I fish. I
much prefer to know one piece of water very well than to know several
stretches of water just so-so. One week on a particular stretch of trout
stream wouldn't even be a good start, especially if I planned to make an
annual trip to the same waters during the same week.

Like Tom said, YMMV.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Wolfgang wrote:
snip
In short, ...

Now, THAT'S funny.

Yeah, well, that Dougie.....he's got quite a sense of humor. Um......did he
happen to mention WHY you think it's funny?

Wolfgang
who has his own theory. :)

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"Jeff" wrote in message
k.net...


Tom Gibson wrote:


Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

and...um...have you found a sufficient supply of boats for those of us
who are looking forward to being able to ride in a boat that we can get
into and out of the creek? Joe and I need a ride (well...joe seemed a
bit uncertain, so i'll let him speak for himself... but i'll need a ride
all around. wolf...are you drivin?

Yep, I'll be leaving here in the wee hours of Friday morning.....hoping to
show Chicago my ass no later than 4:00 a.m......and then wiggling through
the innards of the heartland via back roads. Probably spend the night
somewhere in eastern Ohio or western Pennsylvania and arrive in the environs
of Coburn at some unspecified time on Saturday.

jeff (who has no interest in Paris...but loves hot dogs with ketchup...
obviously, i pass the penns' bronzeback school of dunces entrance exam)

Actually, neither the Parisians nor the New Yawkers have anything to say
about the use of ketchup on hot dogs that is worth taking note of. The
world awaits a definitive answer from central Illinois. Doug?

Wolfgang

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Wolfgang wrote:
...
Actually, neither the Parisians nor the New Yawkers have anything to say
about the use of ketchup on hot dogs that is worth taking note of. The
world awaits a definitive answer from central Illinois. ...

While I agree that neither New Yorkers nor Parisians should be trusted
to have worthwhile opinions on hot dog condiments, you should know that
in Chicago, the only place on the planet where hot dogs occupy their
rightful place as middle-American haute cuisine, requesting ketchup is
to admit to being a person of limited intelligence and low breeding.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Wolfgang wrote:
...
Actually, neither the Parisians nor the New Yawkers have anything to say
about the use of ketchup on hot dogs that is worth taking note of. The
world awaits a definitive answer from central Illinois. ...

While I agree that neither New Yorkers nor Parisians should be trusted
to have worthwhile opinions on hot dog condiments, you should know that
in Chicago, the only place on the planet where hot dogs occupy their
rightful place as middle-American haute cuisine, requesting ketchup is
to admit to being a person of limited intelligence and low breeding.

Yeah.....thanks, Dougie.

Um......you ever wonder what it's like to have an opinion you could call
your own?

Wolfgang

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ah...it must be so comforting to know which side of the razor is dullest...

jeff (limited and low)

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:

...
Actually, neither the Parisians nor the New Yawkers have anything to say
about the use of ketchup on hot dogs that is worth taking note of. The
world awaits a definitive answer from central Illinois. ...


While I agree that neither New Yorkers nor Parisians should be trusted
to have worthwhile opinions on hot dog condiments, you should know that
in Chicago, the only place on the planet where hot dogs occupy their
rightful place as middle-American haute cuisine, requesting ketchup is
to admit to being a person of limited intelligence and low breeding.

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Wolfgang wrote:



Yep, I'll be leaving here in the wee hours of Friday morning.....hoping to
show Chicago my ass no later than 4:00 a.m......and then wiggling through
the innards of the heartland via back roads. Probably spend the night
somewhere in eastern Ohio or western Pennsylvania and arrive in the environs
of Coburn at some unspecified time on Saturday.

well, as good fortune does tend to appear from time to time, joe has
agreed we should ride up in my truck. i'll be bringing the gheenoe, a
spinning rod, and a bottle of heinz ketchup...

jeff

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Wolfgang wrote:

Yeah.....thanks, Dougie.

Um......you ever wonder what it's like to have an opinion you could call
your own?

What's the deal with the summer reruns already ?

Reruns of the same, lame old insults lack the "charm" and "entertainment
value" of your signature, knee-jerk nastiness.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...

Reruns of the same, lame old insults lack the "charm" and "entertainment
value" of your signature, knee-jerk nastiness.

Yeah, that's a fascinating opinion. Any idea whose it is?

Wolfgang
who will bet a shiny new nickel that he can do this twenty times and never
get an answer. :)

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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:dJCkc.434$nN6.345@lakeread06...


Wolfgang wrote:



Yep, I'll be leaving here in the wee hours of Friday morning.....hoping
to
show Chicago my ass no later than 4:00 a.m......and then wiggling
through
the innards of the heartland via back roads. Probably spend the night
somewhere in eastern Ohio or western Pennsylvania and arrive in the
environs
of Coburn at some unspecified time on Saturday.

well, as good fortune does tend to appear from time to time, joe has
agreed we should ride up in my truck.

****, I don't drive THAT badly. :(

i'll be bringing the gheenoe, a
spinning rod, and a bottle of heinz ketchup...

Mmmmmm....bruschetta sauce!

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Reruns of the same, lame old insults lack the "charm" and "entertainment
value" of your signature, knee-jerk nastiness.

Yeah, that's a fascinating opinion. Any idea whose it is?

I take full credit for describing your usual mode of Usenet communication
with the noun phrase "signature, knee-jerk nastiness", although I'd bet
that shiny new nickel I've just won that it could also be described as
"good post, many will agree."

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Reruns of the same, lame old insults lack the "charm" and "entertainment
value" of your signature, knee-jerk nastiness.

Yeah, that's a fascinating opinion. Any idea whose it is?

I take full credit for describing your usual mode of Usenet communication
with the noun phrase "signature, knee-jerk nastiness",

Well, of course you do. But that doesn't answer my question, does it?

although I'd bet
that shiny new nickel I've just won

Oh? Did you make a bet with someone?

that it could also be described as
"good post, many will agree."


Oh yeah, you KNOW you've won the hearts of all of ROFF. Let's just sit back
a while and watch the testimonials roll in, shall we?

Wolfgang
sometimes, with coarse fish, you play them for a long time.......just
because you can.....and you don't much care whether or not they revive.
:)

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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

I take full credit for describing your usual mode of Usenet communication
with the noun phrase "signature, knee-jerk nastiness",

Well, of course you do. But that doesn't answer my question, does it?

Why yes, as a matter of fact it does, it both answers your question and
describes your pathology to a T in three perfectly chosen words.

sometimes, with coarse fish, you play them for a long time.......just
because you can.....and you don't much care whether or not they revive.

First rule of finding yourself in a hole WAY over your head:

Quit digging.

Hope this helps. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...

...Hope this helps. ;-)


We'll see.

Wolfgang

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Jeff wrote:
Tom Gibson wrote:
Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

and...um...have you found a sufficient supply of boats for those of us
who are looking forward to being able to ride in a boat that we can get
into and out of the creek? Joe and I need a ride (well...joe seemed a
bit uncertain, so i'll let him speak for himself... but i'll need a ride
all around. wolf...are you drivin?

I have definitely got room for one passenger in my canoe and three in my
vehicle. I may be able to rustle up a second canoe, but no promises.

Penns Clave Bronzeback Flotilla Update
 

Jeff Miller wrote:
well, as good fortune does tend to appear from time to time, joe has
agreed we should ride up in my truck. i'll be bringing the gheenoe, a
spinning rod, and a bottle of heinz ketchup...

At least you have decent taste in ketchup. ;)

The spinning rod, OTOH--now you're *really* upsetting Ken.

I still have a spot available in my canoe. Ken?

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"Jeff Miller"
well, as good fortune does tend to appear from time to time, joe has
agreed we should ride up in my truck. i'll be bringing the gheenoe, a
spinning rod, and a bottle of heinz ketchup...

jeff
Joe adds --I'll be floating in a gheenoe {?} ---using a 6wt rod and a
chartuse sneaky pete lure--- what is this spinning rod stuff ? what does FF
of Roff mean. OK I'll bring up a backup spinning rod and a can of
sauerkraut

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Thomas Gibson wrote:
Jeff Miller wrote:

well, as good fortune does tend to appear from time to time, joe has
agreed we should ride up in my truck. i'll be bringing the gheenoe, a
spinning rod, and a bottle of heinz ketchup...

At least you have decent taste in ketchup. ;)

Yeah, with ketchup, some olives, raisins, strawberries and
peanut butter you can make a killer bruschetta. ;-)

The spinning rod, OTOH--now you're *really* upsetting Ken.

Not at all. Actually, I'd rather sling Mepps and rooster tails to
smallies with a spinning outfit than fish a crawdad pattern on the
bottom, or gawd help me, chuck a ****in' wooly bugger with a fly rod.

I still have a spot available in my canoe. Ken?

I'm not gonna make it to Penn's this year, but thanks for the invite.
I'll take a rain check though, I have a couple of canoes I can toss
on top of the car in case you guys want to do a trout float one of
these years.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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counting kayaks..

john
"Thomas Gibson" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:
Tom Gibson wrote:
Plus, I found a great parking place today with reasonably easy access
for getting the boats out of the creek.

and...um...have you found a sufficient supply of boats for those of us
who are looking forward to being able to ride in a boat that we can get
into and out of the creek? Joe and I need a ride (well...joe seemed a
bit uncertain, so i'll let him speak for himself... but i'll need a ride
all around. wolf...are you drivin?

I have definitely got room for one passenger in my canoe and three in my
vehicle. I may be able to rustle up a second canoe, but no promises.