On Jan 10, 11:49*pm, wrote:
Our civilization has definitely peaked. Downhill from here...

You're being way too hard on civilization. Actually, it was a fairly
interesting and informative thread IMO. Lots of good info & opinions,
with minimal unavoidable snobbery. And don't overlook the fact that
we're about 110 posts into it without a serious flame war, despite
input from several of the usual suspects. That's gotta give
civilization a boost, eh?

Joe F.