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Old April 22nd, 2008, 03:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Conan The Librarian
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Halfordian Golfer wrote:

On Apr 22, 8:31 am, Conan The Librarian wrote:

Halfordian Golfer wrote:

On Apr 21, 8:36 pm, tim wrote:


The thing that I hate is I see bait guys with a stringer full of fish


2nd year of fishing and you're already dissing 10,000 years of angling
for subsistence? Where did you learn this crap?


So when was the last time you fished "for subsistence"?


I would, respectfully, suggest golf.


I'm thinking you should take your own advice. I don't see how you
can stand the guilt.

Chuck Vance (a water hazard runs through it)



Dude starts fishing, hasn't even caught a fish, and is already
bitching about people that are catching and keeping fish legally.


First of all, how do you know they caught and kept them *legally*?

Secondly, I took his comments to mean, "Damn, they were catching
them on bait but I can't get a hit on flies. I hate that."

Of course, given your obession, I can see how you read his comments
as hatred of the first degree. Eye of the beholder, projection, and all
that.

[snippety doo dah day]

1) Angling has a rich and long tradition. It is, literally, hunting
for fish. Only in the last 20-30 years has angling taken on purely
sporting ramifications.


Yeah, I know what you mean. How I long for the days when you could
keep stringers of 50-60 fish ("for subsistence") without guilt.

In the days before angling became wet-golf
fishing for biological golf balls, anyone who fished was considered a
brother of the angle. We'd say: "Guy fishes, must be a good guy". We
respected the sport and especially the wild animal we were killing in
our pursuit. We understood what wild meant (ask LaCourse, he just got
a refresher) and we would go out of our way to hike around a brother
who was fishing in a spot as to not ruin his fishing. Fishing in the
last 30 years has degraded in to a competitive pursuit, the very last
thing we needed it to become.


And you don't think the guys we see in pictures showing off their
stringers of fish were competitive?

Setting aside your pathological guilt complex for the moment, your
whole "argument" reads like little more than "back in the good ole days,
men were men blah, blah, blah" with a slightly different twist.

What I find so odd is that the majority of the folks reading this
*do* care and respect the fish they pursue. And they do not do it
competitively. Yet you feel compelled to broad brush everyone who
practices C'n'R as some sort of Johnny Come Lately Orvis pimp.

It says more about you than anyone you're ostensibly targeting with
your comments.

Seriously: Grasshopper - catch a grasshopper and than catch a fish,
come back and we will talk.


Seriously, I ask you again: When was the last time you fished for
subsistence?


Chuck Vance