I was not misled. Had friends with the Boron rods. Light, sensitive, if
you looked at them hard, they broke. Is just not the material to use with
the present technology. Major problems with graphite are bang or scratch
the blank. Get a high stress concentration point and blown rod. Or in salt
water fishing, which I also do, High Sticking like we used to do to lift a
salmon or tuna towards the surface. Those old glass sticks would get a U
bend. Do not try this with a graphite rod.
Bill

""The Shadow"" wrote in message
...
Bill, do not be misled by slick advertising. As of today there is "No"
epoxy
system that can hold up to a 100% boron rod. Boron is sometimes used in
conjunction with other materials , but not as a stand alone material for
rod
blank design.

The method normally used by the best manufacturers is to sandwich 1 layer
of
Boron material between several layers of graphite and fiberglass scrim. At
best you achieve a 12%to17% amount of Boron material. The reason for this
is
that as I said there is no epoxy system toady that will not degrade when
applied to a !00% Boron material. What happens is delamination of the
blank,
and performance is ruined. That is why there are no 100% Boron rod blanks
on
the market.


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"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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""The Shadow"" wrote in message
...
Let me put it this way, blank manufacturers have many options today as
to
the material used in a blank.

As I stated in a recent article, many blanks are a combination of the
various moduli o. This is why we are now seeing blanks with a higher
modulus rating that can withstand the rigors that average anglers put
them
through.

But still, if a blank is built with primarily a 65 million modulus
weave
graphite to a) maintain thin walls, while reducing the overall weight
..
and
b) to increase the sensitivity of the blank. Then yes that blank will
be
more susceptible to failure.

As yet I have not seen or heard of any new "miracle"
material, which will give the manufacturers the high modulus ratings
they
seek, and still provide the strength
necessary to hold up to the average angler. Quite honestly I do not
believe
that the everyday angler has need for these rods. Course that is just
MHO,
and we all know the adage concerning opinions o



--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"BassAngler" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote: "You are correct to think that the higher the modulus of
the
graphite weave the more brittle it becomes."

Now Dave, is that correct with Today's materials?

--
Craig Baugher






Boron rods were the most sensitive. Can not remember who built them,
but
the lightest, most sensitive and most fragile rods ever built. One of
the
sal****er graphite rod makers are (GUSA I think) advertises a helix
wound
rod, that supposed to be much less fragile as it does not collapse to an
oval under heavy load. The design of rods with modern fibers is still
in
it's youth.
bill