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Quick Corrode Hooks ?
What kind of alloy would make a good hook AND corrode in fresh water in about a week. Think something like Sintered Cast Iron would work? What metals corrode in a few days? I love to have hooks like this for my plastic worms and my foam poppers. So what if the lure needs a bit more care... Think about it. Gut hook a fish or break off a trophy and rest assured it hasn't just received a death sentence. Or How about hooks lost in those mixed use areas? Be nice to know that hooks lost near the boat dock wont be around to snag a kids foot the next week. Any metallurgist geniuses out there? Hey - What did Chrysler used to make those K cars out of ? 'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion please. Steve P Dallas FlyFishers |
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I've wondered about how long hooks stick around. My conclusion is 'not
much', because of all the fish I have caught in well-used areas and C&R areas, very few have had hooks in their mouths from previous releases. There was one notable 30" Northern Pike with a black DareDevil that I still use, but I have never landed a trout with an OPH still in. Possibly, this might be because leftover hooks tend to kill fish, but if that were the case, where are all the fish who are foul-hooked in nonlethal spots, like fins? If there is mortality from injuries sustained while hooking them, a corrosive hook won't change that. But if they survive the initial event, the hook must get loosened and fall out over time. In fact, I think I'd prefer that to having the shaft corrode away and the tip stay in the body, as without the shaft to bump around, the tip would no longer get loosened. --riverman |
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![]() "riverman" wrote in message oups.com... I've wondered about how long hooks stick around. My conclusion is 'not much', because of all the fish I have caught in well-used areas and C&R areas, very few have had hooks in their mouths from previous releases. There was one notable 30" Northern Pike with a black DareDevil that I still use, but I have never landed a trout with an OPH still in. Possibly, this might be because leftover hooks tend to kill fish, but if that were the case, where are all the fish who are foul-hooked in nonlethal spots, like fins? If there is mortality from injuries sustained while hooking them, a corrosive hook won't change that. But if they survive the initial event, the hook must get loosened and fall out over time. In fact, I think I'd prefer that to having the shaft corrode away and the tip stay in the body, as without the shaft to bump around, the tip would no longer get loosened. --riverman I have caught bass with hooks, baits, etc stuck in them. -- Bob La Londe http://www.YumaBassMan.com |
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No left turn wrote:
Think about it. Gut hook a fish or break off a trophy and rest assured it hasn't just received a death sentence. If the idea of gut hooking fish bothers you, don't use bait. If the fish breaks off, I seriously doubt it's a death sentence. I've caught fish with hooks still embedded in their jaws, and I'll bet most ROFFians have too. Some ROFFians have even told of catching a fish with their own fly embedded in its jaw. (I.e., the fish broke off yet continued to feed and took a fly a second time.) 'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion please. Sorry I couldn't help there. Since I don't believe that most fish die waiting for a standard hook to corrode, I think you have a solution looking for a problem. HTH. Chuck Vance |
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You could use whatever metal they made Gremlins from.
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I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using. |
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George Adams wrote:
I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution, but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using. Hey, that's a great idea! But to really do it right, we need to take it a couple of steps further: Remove all the finish from the hooks and set them in a bucket of water. Remove them from the water, but don't dry them out. Just set them out in the elements for a while. Then put them in an air-tight flybox (can't have any moisture escaping) until you're ready to fish with them. (For best results, I'd recommend leaving them for a year or two in this condition.) Then when you actually hook something, given their rusted condition, they'll likely break, and not only will the fish get away, but what's left of the hook should be well-on-the-way to total disintegration. Of course we'd have to come up with a name for them. Hmmm ... Slo Corrode ... Pre Corrode ... Tru Corrode? Chuck Vance (naw, you don't have to thank me, I live for this stuff) |
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:26:32 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote: the-way to total disintegration. Wait for it...wait for it... Of course we'd have to come up with a name for them. Hmmm ... Slo Corrode ... Pre Corrode ... Tru Corrode? "Chuck's ****ed-Up Hookers" Yep, that'd do it... |
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I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using. Hey, that's a great idea! But to really do it right, we need to take it a couple of steps further: Remove all the finish from the hooks and set them in a bucket of water. Remove them from the water, but don't dry them out. Just set them out in the elements for a while. Then put them in an air-tight flybox (can't have any moisture escaping) until you're ready to fish with them. (For best results, I'd recommend leaving them for a year or two in this condition.) Then when you actually hook something, given their rusted condition, they'll likely break, and not only will the fish get away, but what's left of the hook should be well-on-the-way to total disintegration. Of course we'd have to come up with a name for them. Hmmm ... Slo Corrode ... Pre Corrode ... Tru Corrode? Save yourself the trouble and have a certain North Cakalaky fly shop owner tie one one of his special flies for you. You'll never have to worry about leaving the fly in a fish. -- Frank Reid Euthanize to respond |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:20:59 -0600, "No left turn"
wrote: 'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook = to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion = please. First, turn off your html. It's a pia. Most (all?) fresh water hooks will eventually completely erode in fresh water. Your fears are unfounded. Dave |
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