Ping Bill Kiene - Fly Rod Tube?

Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn

Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

If you're backpacking and want to minimize weight, you don't really need
a rod tube, especially with 4-piece. The sections are only 27". Just
lash them (in a rod sock) to your pack frame.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw wrote:
Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

If you're backpacking and want to minimize weight, you don't really need
a rod tube, especially with 4-piece. The sections are only 27". Just
lash them (in a rod sock) to your pack frame.

I disagree. I'd never try to lash a rod sock full of fly rod
to my pack and expect it to survive the trip. We just had this
discussion a few weeks ago. Me and Larry L or maybe JR, one of
the western guys I've never met at any rate, were bemoaning the
disappearance of the Orvis plastic half-tube. If I could find
those again I'd buy two, one for 3 piece rods and one for 4 piece.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I disagree. I'd never try to lash a rod sock full of fly rod
to my pack and expect it to survive the trip.

That's your privilege -- to disagree. If you're aren't planning on
falling off any cliffs, and if you can take a reasonable degree of care
with your stuff, a rod tube is just extra weight. 10 oz is a LOT to save
on a backpacking trip.

If I were doubtful about my ability to take care of my stuff and not to
fall off cliffs, however, I might not take an overpriced Winston.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn

If you are a little bit handy you might want to just make one. See
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/T...eBackpack.html

Mike McGuire

"Mike McGuire" wrote in message
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Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn

If you are a little bit handy you might want to just make one. See
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/T...eBackpack.html

Mike McGuire

Wow, that seems unnecessarily complex. I built my fly rod tube out of PVC,
and use 'male' endcaps that have little rubber gaskets to make them fit
snugly. They make several dozen types of endcaps, so it wouldn't be hard to
find one that did the job.

To make the padding that fits inside the endcap, I just laid a peice of
ensolite on a hard floor, put the endcap on it, and stepped on it, cutting a
round piece of ensolite like a cookiecutter would, and pressed them into the
endcap. Works perfectly, and the endcaps fit so snugly that they never pop
off accidentally, even on flights.

--riverman

riverman wrote:
"Mike McGuire" wrote in message
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Old Grey wrote:

Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn

If you are a little bit handy you might want to just make one. See
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/T...eBackpack.html

Mike McGuire


Wow, that seems unnecessarily complex. I built my fly rod tube out of PVC,
and use 'male' endcaps that have little rubber gaskets to make them fit
snugly. They make several dozen types of endcaps, so it wouldn't be hard to
find one that did the job.

PVC is heavy.

The lightest commonly available rod tubes are made with aluminum. Sage
has great aluminum rod tubes.

You can make lighter ones from carbon fiber. Or titanium.

It's not worth it for backpacking. Rod tubes are great for keeping the
air-cargo troglodytes from destroying your stuff, but if you take some
minimally reasonably care of your rod, you don't need one when backpacking.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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riverman wrote:
"Mike McGuire" wrote in message
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Old Grey wrote:

Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn

If you are a little bit handy you might want to just make one. See
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/T...eBackpack.html

Mike McGuire


Wow, that seems unnecessarily complex. I built my fly rod tube out of
PVC, and use 'male' endcaps that have little rubber gaskets to make them
fit snugly. They make several dozen types of endcaps, so it wouldn't be
hard to find one that did the job.

PVC is heavy.

The lightest commonly available rod tubes are made with aluminum. Sage has
great aluminum rod tubes.

You can make lighter ones from carbon fiber. Or titanium.

It's not worth it for backpacking. Rod tubes are great for keeping the
air-cargo troglodytes from destroying your stuff, but if you take some
minimally reasonably care of your rod, you don't need one when
backpacking.


I agree that you can choose to go without a tube while backpacking, but I'd
still carry a tube, just for those errant branches or occasional stumbles
and falls. I find that the commercial tubes are big enough to put several
rods in, so making a snug PVC one might still be lighter than the stock
tube. However, if weight was still a factor, I might consider getting some
heavy gauge nylon and wrapping my rod in it, and lashing it along the
external frame. I don't hike with internal frame packs, as they get too
sweaty against my back.

Or another idea I have considered was to make a PVC tube and lash that to my
frame with zip ties, and leave a little groove in the top wide enough so
that I could sheathe it with the reel attached. That way, if I was hiking
alongside a stream, I could leave the rod rigged up with the reel on it,
break it down without taking the line off, and slip it into the tube like a
holster. The rod could be kept in the holster with a short piece of bungee
that slipped over the reel.

--riverman

riverman wrote:

I agree that you can choose to go without a tube while backpacking, but I'd
still carry a tube, just for those errant branches or occasional stumbles
and falls. I find that the commercial tubes are big enough to put several
rods in, so making a snug PVC one might still be lighter than the stock
tube.

Carrying "several" rods on a lightweight backbacking trip sounds kind of
nuts to me. :-)

I loved your TRs from NZ, BTW.

Or another idea I have considered was to make a PVC tube and lash that to my
frame with zip ties, and leave a little groove in the top wide enough so
that I could sheathe it with the reel attached. That way, if I was hiking
alongside a stream, I could leave the rod rigged up with the reel on it,
break it down without taking the line off, and slip it into the tube like a
holster. The rod could be kept in the holster with a short piece of bungee
that slipped over the reel.

When I'm hiking and fishing, I usually carry my rod in my right hand,
completely rigged up.

Another good alternative is to carry a 2-piece rod in a very durable
tube, which does double duty as a hiking stick.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Why not just go first class and build a good one. 4' of 2" titanium
for only $196

http://cgi.ebay.com/TITANIUM-TUBING-...cmd ZViewItem

Such a project would call for more than just an just ordinary screw on
cap, any suggestions?