Kinami Palm Tree Hook Problem

Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can. I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.

I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip weightless.

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can. I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.

I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip
weightless.

What type of rod and line are you using when throwing this lure? Big,
thick, heavy bodies require a rod with a TON of backbone and a line with
little stretch. If you only got 3/32nds of the hookpoint exposed, you're
not moving that hook hard enough in my estimation. Beef up the rod, beef up
the line and I don't think you'll have that problem.
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G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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Let me add on. I was throwing this on a St Croix flipping stick. I set the
hook so hard it pulled the fish completely out of the water.

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can.
I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of
the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday
because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I
got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't
a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.

I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip
weightless.

What type of rod and line are you using when throwing this lure? Big,
thick, heavy bodies require a rod with a TON of backbone and a line with
little stretch. If you only got 3/32nds of the hookpoint exposed, you're
not moving that hook hard enough in my estimation. Beef up the rod, beef
up
the line and I don't think you'll have that problem.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news:1105377440.98950a09f71d1cfbfc7a845dd73ecc70@t eranews...
Let me add on. I was throwing this on a St Croix flipping stick. I set
the
hook so hard it pulled the fish completely out of the water.

If you were using a St. Croix flippin stick, with 50 lb. PowerPro, jerking
the fish completely out of the water, I don't know what to say!

Bad JuJu maybe? P.O. any of the fishing gods lately?
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Also look into Zoom Horney Toad for fishing the slop, there's some of us in
here that think they're awesome.

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can. I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.

I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip
weightless.

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** www.YumaBassMan.com

I'm thinking the same as Steve, You should be able to pull a sharp hook
through any Kinami bait with the right rod/line/hookset. If you're flippin
you needn't be line shy, I use 25# Big Game even in clear water. A heavy
flippin stick & a manly hooset should get the job done. You should probably
start texposing your hook while rigging too - I never bury my hookpoints in
a plastic bait anymore...

Warren

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can. I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.

I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip
weightless.

--
** Public Fishing and Boating Forums
** www.YumaBassMan.com

Let me add on. I was throwing this on a St Croix flipping stick. I set the
hook so hard it pulled the fish completely out of the water. With 50#
Power Pro.




"go-bassn" wrote in message
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I'm thinking the same as Steve, You should be able to pull a sharp hook
through any Kinami bait with the right rod/line/hookset. If you're
flippin
you needn't be line shy, I use 25# Big Game even in clear water. A heavy
flippin stick & a manly hooset should get the job done. You should
probably
start texposing your hook while rigging too - I never bury my hookpoints
in
a plastic bait anymore...

Warren

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Ok, I have tried to maximize the hook ups with this bait as best I can.
I
use an over sized 5/0 Extra wide gap hook. It still blocks to much of
the
point section of the hook way to much. I lost a nice LM yesterday
because
of this. It only had about a 3/32nds of the hook point exposed when I
got
the bait back in the boat. The barb was not exposed at all. It wasn't
a
huge bass, but it would have made siz or seven places difference in our
finish.

I have considered switching to a tube, and that would probably be ok for
weighted applications like flipping trash, but it still won't solve
weightless problems since the tube doesn't have the meat to flip
weightless.

--
** Public Fishing and Boating Forums
** www.YumaBassMan.com

If you jerked the fish from the water, it was a matter of resistance on
the other end not being enough. Get bites from bigger fsih and the
problem will go away.

RichZ" wrote in message
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If you jerked the fish from the water, it was a matter of resistance on
the other end not being enough. Get bites from bigger fsih and the
problem will go away.

That's just too funny. Actually when flipping I have jerked 3+ fish right
out of the water on a shallow bite. This one was probably only about 2
though.

Still funny as heck.

Bob La Londe wrote:
Actually when flipping I have jerked 3+ fish right
out of the water on a shallow bite

Yes, but I'll bet there was enough resistance at the other end to
penetrate with the hook before lifting the bass.