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Old February 4th, 2006, 10:53 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn
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Old February 4th, 2006, 11:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.


If you're backpacking and want to minimize weight, you don't really need
a rod tube, especially with 4-piece. The sections are only 27". Just
lash them (in a rod sock) to your pack frame.

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Old February 5th, 2006, 12:35 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:
Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.


If you're backpacking and want to minimize weight, you don't really need
a rod tube, especially with 4-piece. The sections are only 27". Just
lash them (in a rod sock) to your pack frame.


I disagree. I'd never try to lash a rod sock full of fly rod
to my pack and expect it to survive the trip. We just had this
discussion a few weeks ago. Me and Larry L or maybe JR, one of
the western guys I've never met at any rate, were bemoaning the
disappearance of the Orvis plastic half-tube. If I could find
those again I'd buy two, one for 3 piece rods and one for 4 piece.

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Ken Fortenberry
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Old February 5th, 2006, 12:47 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I disagree. I'd never try to lash a rod sock full of fly rod
to my pack and expect it to survive the trip.


That's your privilege -- to disagree. If you're aren't planning on
falling off any cliffs, and if you can take a reasonable degree of care
with your stuff, a rod tube is just extra weight. 10 oz is a LOT to save
on a backpacking trip.

If I were doubtful about my ability to take care of my stuff and not to
fall off cliffs, however, I might not take an overpriced Winston.

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Old February 5th, 2006, 03:10 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:

If I were doubtful about my ability to take care of my stuff and not to
fall off cliffs, however, I might not take an overpriced Winston.


For the record, the IBIS the original poster mentioned my have been
sold by Winston, but it is not a Winston, one's feeling on the pricing
structure notwithstanding. And it was priced as an "entry level rod".

Carry on.

Wayne
Who uses aluminum tools last time I backpacked.

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Old February 5th, 2006, 05:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wayne Knight wrote:

Wayne
Who uses aluminum tools last time I backpacked.



No offense, but I'm guessing that was time ago.....


Back in my younger days, a 30 pounds of pack and gear was considered
very light. Things have really changed for the better in terms of gear
available. Inspired by Snoop, I've gotten back into some kind of shape
and backpacking. I did a couple trips this past Fall and I have a number
of short trips planned for this Summer. I bought some new gear and the
pack, sleeping bag, pad, tent, stove, cooking gear, fuel, fishing gear,
clothes, raingear with food and other assorted stuff for a long weekend
is less than 20 pounds which even this aging body can carry fairly
easily. I don't use a rod case.

Willi
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Old February 6th, 2006, 12:59 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wayne Knight wrote:
rw wrote:


If I were doubtful about my ability to take care of my stuff and not to
fall off cliffs, however, I might not take an overpriced Winston.



For the record, the IBIS the original poster mentioned my have been
sold by Winston, but it is not a Winston, one's feeling on the pricing
structure notwithstanding. And it was priced as an "entry level rod".

Carry on.


Sorry, Wayne. I'm not intimately familiar with the Winston line of rods.
It sounds like this particular rod is not a candidate for heartbreaking
loss is the flyfisher/backpacker falls off a cliff.

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Old February 5th, 2006, 03:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 2/4/06 7:47 PM, in article
et, "rw"
wrote:

If I were doubtful about my ability to take care of my stuff and not to
fall off cliffs, however, I might not take an overpriced Winston.


That's what I was thinking. I mean, I thought that's why the make the
Cabela's KPOS Three Forks 3 weight! Not that I do the Muir trail (I wish!)
but that's what I carry when I'm hiking with a pack. I secure it to the
side of my pack in the rod sock. Hasn't busted while hiking yet- though I
did break the tip in the screen door one time. And my hikes are generally
in the relatively tightly-wooded and rocky eastern US. Lots of rod-grabbing
trailside stuff around here.

Bill

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Old February 5th, 2006, 02:31 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn


If you are a little bit handy you might want to just make one. See
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/T...eBackpack.html

Mike McGuire
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Old February 5th, 2006, 02:40 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Mike McGuire" wrote in message
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Old Grey wrote:
Since you own a fly shop I thought you might be a good person to ask.
I hope you don't mind the intrusion. I have a 9' four piece Winston
Ibis that came with the cordura rod tube. Together with the rod and
tube it weighs in around 19 oz. I am looking to do some long
backpacking trips this summer (Muir Trail) and am trying to find a
lighter rod tube but one that still has rigid sides. Do you know of
any rigid side tubes (aluminium or other material) 2 inch diameter by
30 inches long or so that weigh in less than 8 to 10 oz.?

Thanks for any feedback.

Allyn


If you are a little bit handy you might want to just make one. See
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/T...eBackpack.html

Mike McGuire


Wow, that seems unnecessarily complex. I built my fly rod tube out of PVC,
and use 'male' endcaps that have little rubber gaskets to make them fit
snugly. They make several dozen types of endcaps, so it wouldn't be hard to
find one that did the job.

To make the padding that fits inside the endcap, I just laid a peice of
ensolite on a hard floor, put the endcap on it, and stepped on it, cutting a
round piece of ensolite like a cookiecutter would, and pressed them into the
endcap. Works perfectly, and the endcaps fit so snugly that they never pop
off accidentally, even on flights.

--riverman


 




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