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Old May 31st, 2004, 02:01 AM
Rodney
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Which do you prefer and why ?

Under what conditions would you change places ?

Do you seam to catch more bass from which one over the other on a
regular bases ?
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Old May 31st, 2004, 07:12 AM
Craig Baugher
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Truth be known, I prefer the front of the boat on inland lakes and the back
of the boat on bigger water. Why? Because on big water, the person up front
spends 50% of their time trying to maintain boat control. One reason why I
have beaten every boater I have ever fished with on the Great Lakes. The
poor guy is continuously working the troll motor while trying to fish at the
same time. Even with drift socks, the person up front is working the troll
motor to help hold the drift line (or path). Being in the back, I get to
focus 100% on fishing. It's kind of unfair for the boater.

On inland lakes, I like being in control and having first crack at all the
fish. I also like to position a boat a bit further off shore than most
people (typically about 60-feet), or right in the middle of narrower
cannels. I also like to follow main river channel breaklines, where a lot
of anglers simply follow the shoreline. I also like having my troll motor
set on the lowest setting I can get away with to maintain boat position, so
I can fish a spot slowly and thoroughly. Being primarily a tubebait and
jig-n-pig angler, slow works better for me. I think too many anglers spook
their fish by having the their troll motor set too high and the fact that
they stop and start their motors, instead of maintaining a very slow but
steady pace.

When would I prefer to be in the back of the boat on inland lakes? yeah, on
windy days where the wind is pushing the boat around badly. Its like being
on big water, being up front means spending a great deal of your time
holding position so the guy in the back of the boat can out fish you.

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Old June 1st, 2004, 05:23 PM
Sandon L. Joren
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I prefer to fish, don't matter where..... Actually, I find myself in the rear of the bus most times as I fish primarily draw tournaments as a non-boater. Not being familiar with someone else's rig, I'd prefer to have them put me on the fish. Most of my team tournaments are on bigger water and not having to fight with the trolling motor gives me more time to concentrate on my fishing (and beating my partner.....

I have heard some real horror stories of a person being 'back-boated'. However, I have NEVER been 'back-boated' having been fortunate enough to have been paired up with really good people.

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Old June 6th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Bob La Londe
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"Sandon L. Joren" wrote in message et...
I have heard some real horror stories of a person being 'back-boated'. However, I have NEVER been 'back-boated' having been fortunate enough to have been paired up with really good people.

Being back boated deliberately is not really an issue. I have not fished with soembody who has doen it deliberately, but i can tell you that it happens. Usually due to difficult boat handling conditions. Flipping a bank with a lot of heavy baot traffice is difficult. Sometimes its easier to drag the boat along right against the brush and flip ahead of the boat. The back boater is rarely ina good position to flipt he cover. If the front boater is conscientious they will invite the back boater up to the front deck in these conditions.

A couple months ago a friend of mine drew a local female angler as his boater. He complained bitterly about her back boating him afterwards It created some negative tension in the local club community. I took him fishing shortly afterwards in an open team tournament, and I let him run the trolling motor for a while in windy conditions. I kicked back and waited until he was having trouble positioning the boat then I started complaining about him back boating me. LOL. I think he got the point.

I don't think he has apologised to the other angler, but I doubt he will be so vocal without atleast thinking about it in the future.
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Old June 6th, 2004, 10:49 PM
Rodney
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Bob La Londe wrote:


Being back boated deliberately is not really an issue. I have not
fished with soembody who has doen it deliberately, but i can tell you
that it happens.


I have had it happen deliberately on many occasions,, but that is what I
tell them to do, I want them to work the fish first, and catch what they
can, I'll fish for what's left, or for the fish they just caught, of
course there is never any "money" on the line like in a tournament,,
well sometimes some money is side bet,, but all in fun.

I let them work an area first, and I follow up.

Without me doing this, I can't directly compare their fishing rigs
and/or techniques to mine. It has proven to be the best way to test
fishing techniques on the same fish, at the same time. It's not good
enough (to me) for my rigs to work, they must work better than others,
at least the major majority of the time. If I come up with something
that is "just as good" as another product, I don't pursue it,, just
being different is not enough.

Of course there are some days where nothing works, or almost doesn't
work, and I need to know that other rigs are failing at the same time,
that my successes,, even when they are few are still better than other
techniques under the same conditions.

Just taking a rig out, and having a good day, proves absolutely nothing,
neither does taking it out and having a bad day
--
Rodney Long,
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Old May 31st, 2004, 04:19 PM
go-bassn
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Front Front Front! I'm one of those guys that's miserable if I don't have
total control of everything regardless of the conditions. I fished in the
backseat the entire Federation Divisional on Champlain last year & honestly
believe it cost me a spot in the National. My day 2 & 3 boaters suc-ed &
man was I on em.

Warren

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Which do you prefer and why ?

Under what conditions would you change places ?

Do you seam to catch more bass from which one over the other on a
regular bases ?
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



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Old June 1st, 2004, 09:41 PM
IBNFSHN
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Back, Back Back! Its easier to sleep.

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Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"go-bassn" wrote in message
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Front Front Front! I'm one of those guys that's miserable if I don't have
total control of everything regardless of the conditions. I fished in the
backseat the entire Federation Divisional on Champlain last year &

honestly
believe it cost me a spot in the National. My day 2 & 3 boaters suc-ed &
man was I on em.

Warren

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Which do you prefer and why ?

Under what conditions would you change places ?

Do you seam to catch more bass from which one over the other on a
regular bases ?
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com





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Old May 31st, 2004, 05:41 PM
Bob La Londe
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Default Front seat or back

I have to say when fishing calm waters I prefer to have the fornt seat.
Around here that means lakes an backwaters. I just naturally have the best
position to hit every bit of cover that I like when flipping, and flipping
or pitching is probably 50% of our productive fishing most days.

However, when handling the boat in rough water or a heavy current I much
prefer the back seat. I can concentrate on fishing. In my home waters that
means working the banks int he main river channel. Between the pleasure
boaters running up and down the rver and the changing current as you work
your way up a bank it can be a real challenge to keep your boat in position.

An exception of course is my ABA series partner Kwame (Hammer) Kuanda. He
has amazing boat control skills. We have worked miles of fast side banks
without a hitch except to tie on a new rig or switch baits. I have watched
how he works a bank and I can duplicate it to a certain degree now, but not
with the apparent effortlessness he exudes. When fishing a tournament we
switch off on the front as convenience dictates. When he has to retie he
steps down off the front deck and I take over so I can contine to put my
bait in good locations while he is otherwise distracted. When I need to
change and he is ready to fish we will switch again. We make a vary good
team this way.

I guess to answer your question, it depends on the water and weather
conditions, and who I am fishing with.
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"Rodney" . wrote in message
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Which do you prefer and why ?

Under what conditions would you change places ?

Do you seam to catch more bass from which one over the other on a
regular bases ?
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



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Old May 31st, 2004, 07:32 PM
Bob Rickard
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I am absolutely a back seater. I fish purely for fun, and I compete only
with myself. I am an intensely curious person, and I like to experiment &
occasionally fool around. I would hate to back seat behind me because I am
not always paying attention to where I am. I will voice my opinions if I
think they are worthy, & will be very outspoken if an idiot in front is
trying to block me from good spots. If that doesn't work, a few 7/8 oz. Zara
Spooks in the back of the head will quickly get the idiot's attention (at
that point a treble in his ear becomes my only goal!). At day's end, I
always have fun & seem to catch my share.
--
Bob Rickard
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"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Which do you prefer and why ?

Under what conditions would you change places ?

Do you seam to catch more bass from which one over the other on a
regular bases ?
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



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Old May 31st, 2004, 09:22 PM
Andrew Kidd
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I prefer the front, but have fished out of the back of enough boats to know
it's not a huge disadvantage as long as you're not afraid to speak up if you
don't like what's happening.

I've seen several guys complain about trolling motor in the wind. I fish so
much out in the wind that I seldom give it a lot thought. It becomes a bit
automatic after a while. I really like fishing wind blown points and
bridges. The bridges usually not only act as a water funnel, but a wind
tunnel as well.
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"Rodney" . wrote in message
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Which do you prefer and why ?

Under what conditions would you change places ?

Do you seam to catch more bass from which one over the other on a
regular bases ?
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



 




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