Czech Nymphing

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:52:56 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

The weighted center fly (as opposed to lead) looks like a good
alternative ... less hardware to snag ... but we're talking a hefty fly
here to substitute for 3 BB's (which is the approximate weight we needed
for the Kern's flow rate)

Let's start with the tag end fly (from the surgeons knot) and call
that fly #1

The second fly, which will be in the middle of the rig, and is the
hefty one used to get the rig down, is tied to the end of that tippet.

The third fly is ties from the bend of the hook of the 2nd fly. Take
a piece of tippet and tie it to the bend of the heavy (2nd) fly. At
the end of that tippet you tie fly #3.

l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote

A surgeon's knot is going to leave four ends: 1 is your leader or
"first length of mono", the 2nd is the long piece which will be your
tippet, and 3 the tag end of your leader, 4 tag end of your tippet.
If I use this method (and I have and don't like it), I tie the
dropper on the tag end of the leader (first length of mono) which is
"pointing downwards," and parallel to your long pice of tippet
material.

Not sure what you meant by "this method". You mean Czech nymphing in
general or do you mean tying a fly to a surgeon's knot tag so the fly
stands off the main leader?

-dnc-

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:15:38 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

Not sure what you meant by "this method".

Tying flies to tag ends of the surgeon's knot(s).

You could continue and tie 2 or 3 more surgeons knots and put droppers
on them, but with each one you increase the complexity of the rig and
the bigger chance of snarling. If I use this method I tie a fly to
the tag end of the leader (at Surgeons knot), a fly to the end of that
tippet (this would be the heavy fly to get the rig down), and then tie
a piece of tippet to the bend of the hefty fly and your third fly to
the end of that tippet.

Dave LaCourse wrote


l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6

Ahhh! The rig I used also had '6' on a tag end (ergo, 2 surgeon's knots)
with the BB's just above the '6' surgeon's knot. With the weight in the
fly, you apparently don't need it to stand off from the leader. Cool.
Reduces complexity.
--

-dnc-
Now I can tie it in 1 hour instead of 2

know yoour depth!

In article ,
Dave LaCourse wrote:


l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6

wont your first fly wrap around the main line?

--
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.

In article ,
Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:15:38 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

Not sure what you meant by "this method".

Tying flies to tag ends of the surgeon's knot(s).

You could continue and tie 2 or 3 more surgeons knots and put droppers
on them, but with each one you increase the complexity of the rig and
the bigger chance of snarling. If I use this method I tie a fly to
the tag end of the leader (at Surgeons knot), a fly to the end of that
tippet (this would be the heavy fly to get the rig down), and then tie
a piece of tippet to the bend of the hefty fly and your third fly to
the end of that tippet.




How does the snarling of czeck compare to just tying 24 inches of tippet
to the bend of the first fly, and 24 inches to the bend of the second
fly (I find the more line the less chance of snarling)

--
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 03:01:31 -0800, JDOE wrote:

wont your first fly wrap around the main line?

Nope.

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 03:04:44 -0800, JDOE wrote:

How does the snarling of czeck compare to just tying 24 inches of tippet
to the bend of the first fly, and 24 inches to the bend of the second
fly (I find the more line the less chance of snarling)

Sure, you could do it that way. Or you could do it my way: only one
nymph. Fish are like women: Find out what they want and give it to
them. Of all the times I've used multiple flies on a rig, I usually
caught fish on only one of them. That being the case, why the other
two?

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:47:25 -0500, (scott sztorc)
wrote:

know yoour depth!

You have a grasp for the obvious, scott.