Why McCain / Palin is OK with me

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
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George Cleveland wrote:
Yeah yeah yeah... so they say. But is it the government my two sons
deserve?
I deserve it because I didn't walk into the Swedish immigration
office in Stockholm and ask for asylum when I was there when I was 18.
Typical "liberal" position - "I deserve a reward because I _didn't_ do
whatever..." ...
Huh ? Did you deliberately misread George's post are where you
taught creationism in science class ? ;-)

Huh, right back at ya? If I understand the first part, no, I didn't
misread anything. He said:

" I deserve it because I didn't..."

Puhlease, you deliberately misstated George's position as
"I deserve a reward" when, unless you're way dumber than
you look, you know that he meant he deserves bad government
but his sons do not.

So tell us Rick, what have you ever done to deserve the many
advantages you have other than be born to the right parents ?

I have no obligation to explain, much less justify, anything to anyone
here for a number of reasons, and chief among them in this case is
because I'm not running for POTUS, nor asking anyone to vote or
otherwise support me in such an endeavor, nor have I claimed that I
deserve anything.

Uh huh, and I've never heard anyone on this forum say that
Obama deserved anything either. What I've heard in this forum
is that Obama is the best candidate for the job among those
left in the running.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:40:19 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
George Cleveland wrote:
Yeah yeah yeah... so they say. But is it the government my two sons
deserve?
I deserve it because I didn't walk into the Swedish immigration
office in Stockholm and ask for asylum when I was there when I was 18.
Typical "liberal" position - "I deserve a reward because I _didn't_ do
whatever..." ...
Huh ? Did you deliberately misread George's post are where you
taught creationism in science class ? ;-)

Huh, right back at ya? If I understand the first part, no, I didn't
misread anything. He said:

" I deserve it because I didn't..."

Puhlease, you deliberately misstated George's position as
"I deserve a reward" when, unless you're way dumber than
you look, you know that he meant he deserves bad government
but his sons do not.

Yet another typical US "liberal" view - that being able to not only have
just about complete freedom of speech and to have any say in government
at all isn't a reward. Maybe instead of Sweden, you guys might want to
look into moving to, oh, maybe Zimbabwe. IAC, he said he deserved
something for doing nothing, and his sons deserved something else for
doing nothing.

So tell us Rick, what have you ever done to deserve the many
advantages you have other than be born to the right parents ?

I have no obligation to explain, much less justify, anything to anyone
here for a number of reasons, and chief among them in this case is
because I'm not running for POTUS, nor asking anyone to vote or
otherwise support me in such an endeavor, nor have I claimed that I
deserve anything.

Uh huh, and I've never heard anyone on this forum say that
Obama deserved anything either. What I've heard in this forum
is that Obama is the best candidate for the job among those
left in the running.

OK. Why is he the best candidate?

HTH,
R

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Puhlease, you deliberately misstated George's position as
"I deserve a reward" when, unless you're way dumber than
you look, you know that he meant he deserves bad government
but his sons do not.

Yet another typical US "liberal" view - ...

Yet another typical GOP diversion and attack. The GOP style
modern conservative can't address the issues because their
positions are intellectually and morally bankrupt, always
have been but it's just now becoming obvious. Note to Rick:
"America Love It Or Leave It" was a stupid slogan even when
it wasn't old and stale.

Uh huh, and I've never heard anyone on this forum say that
Obama deserved anything either. What I've heard in this forum
is that Obama is the best candidate for the job among those
left in the running.

OK. Why is he the best candidate?

Because he's a liberal. Duh.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:24:18 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Puhlease, you deliberately misstated George's position as
"I deserve a reward" when, unless you're way dumber than
you look, you know that he meant he deserves bad government
but his sons do not.

Yet another typical US "liberal" view - ...

Yet another typical GOP diversion and attack. The GOP style
modern conservative can't address the issues because their
positions are intellectually and morally bankrupt, always
have been but it's just now becoming obvious. Note to Rick:
"America Love It Or Leave It" was a stupid slogan even when
it wasn't old and stale.

Uh, yeah - "Those Goddamned mother****ing sonofabitch ******* cocksucker
Republicans called us liberals an impolite name..." wailed the poor
little "liberal."

"WOW! It must have been pretty bad..."

"They called us 'hypocrites'..."

Uh huh, and I've never heard anyone on this forum say that
Obama deserved anything either. What I've heard in this forum
is that Obama is the best candidate for the job among those
left in the running.

OK. Why is he the best candidate?

Because he's a liberal. Duh.

Well, now, finally some honesty...I can see Obama's new slogan now:
"Change we can bull**** you about"

HTH,
R

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:36:50 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
I suspect that I work at least as much, if not more, on things at least
as mentally and physically difficult, if not more so, and do so for a
longer period of time, on most days than many of "the rest of 'us'" and
have for many years.

speaking of mentally difficult, reading this sentence required that I spike
my morning coffee(hell, I'm allowed, it's my birthday.....)! And, to think,
I figured that I'd mastered the 'run-on sentence'!!vbseg
Tom



Happy birthday, Tom.

Geo. C.

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:04:57 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

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On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:56:37 -0500, George Cleveland
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:58:17 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:


OK. It will be tragic, sure, but in no way unjust.

- JR
Not unjust. The Tyranny of the masses.

Or as someone else once , people get the government they deserve.

--riverman
Yeah yeah yeah... so they say. But is it the government my two sons
deserve?
I deserve it because I didn't walk into the Swedish immigration
office in Stockholm and ask for asylum when I was there when I was 18.

Typical "liberal" position - "I deserve a reward because I _didn't_ do
whatever..." ...

Huh ? Did you deliberately misread George's post are where you
taught creationism in science class ? ;-)

So tell us Rick, what have you ever done to deserve the many
advantages you have other than be born to the right parents ?

And there you are,

Well, there *you* are, most of the rest of us had to work for it.


Maybe I didn't make myself clear.

I deserve to live under a McCain/Mooselini government because I had
the chance to move to Sweden when I was 18 and Sweden was granting
draft age Americans political asylum at the time. I knew it. Thought
about it. And wimped out. Even though I really liked the country.

My kids did not have that chance and hence do not deserve to live
under the tender mercies of right wing religious zealots.

Geo. C.

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
What I've heard in this forum
is that Obama is the best candidate for the job among those
left in the running.
OK. Why is he the best candidate?
Because he's a liberal. Duh.

Well, now, finally some honesty...

There will always be those rabid GOP partisans and dumb****
religious whackjobs who consider "liberal" a dirty word but
many Americans are no longer buying that bull****. The pendulum
has swung. Tom Delay, Phil Gramm, Randy Cunningham et al. have
killed what was left of GOP Conservatism and the GOP has nothing
left but a warmongering old nutcase from the past and a gun-
toting grandma of the Christian Taliban.

And there's some more honesty for you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sep 7, 8:46*am, wrote:

NICE OF YOU TO ASK RICHARD.
Obama is the best candidate because he offers the best chance to
untangle the grubby hands of the "end of the road-er" right wing
America haters, from around the neck of the USA, the best hope for
democracy on the planet.

Obama holds out the possibility that traitors and that those who have
put selfishness and their feudalistic belief in their right to a free
ride, up as their false God, will find justice AFTER a trial, and not
at the end of a rope or firing squad like they deserve for their
treason. IF Obama is elected I fully expect some of these people will
flee the USA with their loot.

Obama for me holds out the hope that the Constitutional protections of
the individual will be restored and those in the current
administration who have waged war against the Bill of Rights, and
profited immensely from corruption and the cynical slaughter of our
young soldiers amplified by faulty equipment, rotted food, and
careerist leadership, will meet their deserved fate at the hands of
the American people.

Obama for me holds out the possibility of America for Americans, a
peaceful and helpful partner with the World, and the beginning of the
end of the systematic plundering of the world's resources and trained
people to prop up the sniveling nouveau riche purveyors of trash
culture.

Forget Obama, this election holds out the chance that working people
can reclaim their stake in this country thru the ballot box, and send
a signal that the stealing, corruption, and secret dealing is either
over or there will be hell to pay.

Dave
Today the Bush administration NATIONALIZED one half of the US
mortgage industry. I wonder how many Bush butt lickers even noticed?

JR wrote in :

Our generation was born with the gift of the U.S. Constitution.
It benefits from the wealthiest, strongest economy the world has
ever seen. It has a free press and, thanks to the internet,
access to almost unlimited amounts of information. It has open
and free elections.


Except the current administration has been using the Constitution as toilet
paper. First choice to me would be the ticket that is more likely to honor
and rebuild the separation of powers. McCain seems to be a stooge to the
same folks that Bush stooges for (is stooge a verb??), and Palin seems
rabid, so hope doesn't run high for me that they're the ticket.


--
Scott
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On 8 Sep 2008 13:09:50 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

JR wrote in :

Our generation was born with the gift of the U.S. Constitution.
It benefits from the wealthiest, strongest economy the world has
ever seen. It has a free press and, thanks to the internet,
access to almost unlimited amounts of information. It has open
and free elections.


Except the current administration has been using the Constitution as toilet
paper.

What do you see as some examples of this?

TC,
R