A ishing thread

On Oct 12, 3:26*pm, "Fred" wrote:

Take one " exotic " trip and as many as I want locally MT. WY and ID
or take one w a grandchild at a lodge w a guide

Seems like a no-brainer. Make the memories with your grandkid.

Other's have made good suggestions already. I think "big salmon" or
steelhead would not make a fun trip for a kid -- too few fish, too
much work for each. How long is a kid going to cast a big rod and big
fly? If you are set on AK, I'd pick the time/loc when the kid can get
into pink salmon. They can catch as many as they want for an hour or
two, then take a break and watch you fish for bigger ones. I like the
middle fork float trip idea too, wild non-phd fish, probably a lot of
dry fly action -- a kid would like that. You mentioned riding, maybe a
second trip is a multi-day pack trip into some mountain lakes. Or into
the Yellowstone backcountry. Again, wild eager fish, just what a kid
needs to get hooked.

Jon.

On 2009-10-13 10:10:48 -0400, Jon said:

You mentioned riding, maybe a
second trip is a multi-day pack trip into some mountain lakes. Or into
the Yellowstone backcountry. Again, wild eager fish, just what a kid
needs to get hooked.

Jon.

Hi, Jon

I fished with some folks in Labrador last year from California who were
going on a multi-day pack trip (horses and mules). They mentioned it
and said it was something the four of them did every couple of years.
I neglected to get any info from them, and have lost the two e-mail
addees given to me.

Do you have any info on such a trip (not in Yellowstone)? It would be
ideal for my oldest grandson, his wife, and Jo and me. I need to do
some of these things that I have always wanted to do with family.

Hope you and your mule are well. d;o)

Dave

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On 12-Oct-2009, David LaCourse wrote:

Make an adventure out of it. Float the Middle Fork of the Salmon River
in Idaho. It would be relatively inexpensive, and the camping out each
night would be fun. And, it is safe. Lots of Cutts easy to catch
too. I was going to do that this summer with my 19 yo grand daughter,
but she chickened out. It is a trip I hope to make before I die.

. Alaska - too expensive.

Dave Thanks.
The above is a very good idea and I will look into perhaps for this yr
but
I want something myself more exotic and re camping for her first extended
trip
I would rather break her into that after this trip
We can always go some somewhere 4 hrs - 5 away near Bozeman MT - just her
and I or w gandma

But

If you were ever to do that trip
We would be pleased to meet up with you
re
My grandson - I am gonna wait at least 4-5 yrs as He knows everything
already !!

Alaska is doable $$ wise and I have 28oor 29,000 free miles

I like Kodiak and I caught some nice fish
Even made a few friends there.

I did not like the missle silos - Fred again w
politics!!!!!

There seem to be many distinct and different regions to Alaska
Ive only seen 5?
but
I don't even want to know about combat fishing - Again w politics!!!

Lexis' parents have to of course OK wherever she goes.

Fred

Look at Panama. About 25% the cost of Alaska.

On 2009-10-14 01:23:27 -0400, "CalifBill" said:

Look at Panama. About 25% the cost of Alaska.

Yeah, and those Panamanian trout are bigger than Alaska's.

I lived in Panama for four years. I wouldn't go near that place!

On Oct 13, 4:29*pm, David LaCourse wrote:

Do you have any info on such a trip (not in Yellowstone)?

Nope. Not enough water down this way to call a pack trip a fishing
trip (though you might do some fishing on a pack trip). The guys up
north would know more than I, though I recall hearing that the Wind
River range in WY has trips that hit multiple high country lakes.

Hope you and your mule are well. *d;o)

Well...there's a Reid-ish story to answer that, but life is always
good out here...

Jon.

Jon wrote:
Do you have any info on such a trip (not in Yellowstone)?

Nope. Not enough water down this way to call a pack trip a fishing
trip (though you might do some fishing on a pack trip). The guys up
north would know more than I, though I recall hearing that the Wind
River range in WY has trips that hit multiple high country lakes.

The trip I've always wanted to take, if I was ever to get
on a friggin' horse again (highly doubtful), is into the
Two Ocean Pass area of the Teton Wilderness just south of
Yellowstone. The cutthroat fishing on the upper Yellowstone
and Thorofare Creek is alleged to be fantastic.

I've thought about a backpacking trip up in there but it's
too long a round trip to be realistic anymore and would
have been quite the challenge even as a youngster. Hmmmm,
I wonder if I could rent a pair of llamas ? That might be
the ticket for the "horse averse".

The Wind Rivers are nice, we did a 10 day backpacking trip
and I caught some decent fish up there but I much prefer
stream fishing to high country lake fishing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:33:11 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Jon wrote:
Do you have any info on such a trip (not in Yellowstone)?

Nope. Not enough water down this way to call a pack trip a fishing
trip (though you might do some fishing on a pack trip). The guys up
north would know more than I, though I recall hearing that the Wind
River range in WY has trips that hit multiple high country lakes.

The trip I've always wanted to take, if I was ever to get
on a friggin' horse again (highly doubtful), is into the
Two Ocean Pass area of the Teton Wilderness just south of
Yellowstone. The cutthroat fishing on the upper Yellowstone
and Thorofare Creek is alleged to be fantastic.

I've thought about a backpacking trip up in there but it's
too long a round trip to be realistic anymore and would
have been quite the challenge even as a youngster. Hmmmm,
I wonder if I could rent a pair of llamas ? That might be
the ticket for the "horse averse".

The Wind Rivers are nice, we did a 10 day backpacking trip
and I caught some decent fish up there but I much prefer
stream fishing to high country lake fishing.

Maybe Obama will promise to take you to Fawn Lake...he could get Axelrod to tote
ya up there in his front-end loader...

HTH,
R

On 14-Oct-2009, Ken Fortenberry wrote:

but I much prefer
stream fishing to high country lake fishing.

--

Same here!
Thanks to all for their great advice.
I am pumped and looking forward to making and organozing my first tripp w my
grand daughter
My grandson -(the terror) is still 4-5 yrs away from a trip

I have contacted some outfitters on the Snake for raft and drift boat trips
( a fu;; days drive).

I will also contact some outfitters near Yellowstone for a pack trip
I would like to pack in my fishing mandolin and a keyboard for her - she
already rides and she pays a great piano
We will probably have to do tailored trip to a river or some streams

We will limit it to 3-4 days 5 or 6 w travel - not too far from home
Thats enough for a young pre teenager who is getting real popular
We can get into more exotic fishing trips - after this initial one

I did conatct an outfitter in Joseph OR who would take us on the Grande
Ronde for 4 days
Is anyone familiar w this river or area?

Thanks again for all the sagacity on the list.

One can still get some good info and advice on this nutso list!

Fred

On Oct 14, 11:58*am, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:33:11 -0500, Ken Fortenberry



wrote:
Jon wrote:
Do you have any info on such a trip (not in Yellowstone)?

Nope. Not enough water down this way to call a pack trip a fishing
trip (though you might do some fishing on a pack trip). The guys up
north would know more than I, though I recall hearing that the Wind
River range in WY has trips that hit multiple high country lakes.

The trip I've always wanted to take, if I was ever to get
on a friggin' horse again (highly doubtful), is into the
Two Ocean Pass area of the Teton Wilderness just south of
Yellowstone. The cutthroat fishing on the upper Yellowstone
and Thorofare Creek is alleged to be fantastic.

I've thought about a backpacking trip up in there but it's
too long a round trip to be realistic anymore and would
have been quite the challenge even as a youngster. Hmmmm,
I wonder if I could rent a pair of llamas ? That might be
the ticket for the "horse averse".

The Wind Rivers are nice, we did a 10 day backpacking trip
and I caught some decent fish up there but I much prefer
stream fishing to high country lake fishing.

Maybe Obama will promise to take you to Fawn Lake...he could get Axelrod to tote
ya up there in his front-end loader...

HTH,
R

I have a feeling that if Axlerod HAD a front-end loader he'd be busy
with it at Fox "News"

Here's an Alaska suggestion...
Copper River Valley...Gulkana and Klutina Rivers are outstanding.
Plenty of good guides and lodging is reasonable. On road system but
still Alaska feel to the area. Caveat...the Klutina in particular can
be unforgiving. Probably ok with guide. Other rivers less known in
area but worthwhile include Tonsina (South towards Valdez a bit) and
the Tangles River/Lake areas. The drive from Anchortown is 4-5 hours
and then if you were to stay in Glennallen (most central to all these
rivers but not my favorite place)...Caribou Motel used to be decent
and reasonable...you could head off in any of the directions to these
rivers. If you were to focus on the Gulkana and Tangles areas, Paxson
Lodge used to be fine. I am going back 10 years on these experiences.
In addition to salmon and trout there are some nice grayling streams
up in the Tangles Lakes area.

SE Alaska, where I grew up, is an awesome place. However, summer
weather is often cold and rainy, though better than other times of
year. You could easily have a week straight of foul weather. The
guide costs would be more in SE as well due to where you have to get
to for the fishing. Often a float plane trip is involved or a long
boat trip...obviously raising cost quite a bit.

Paul

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT), Family-Outdoors
wrote:


...Axlerod...

Ya know, you may be on to something there...sooner or later, with the load of
**** he's generally dispensing, he's gonna snap, and it's not gonna be
pretty...or fragrant...

HTH,
R
....and frankly, it's becoming clear that someone told the administration flacks
and FOX News there was a pony to be found...