Does anyone build their own leaders?

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:

Scott Seidman wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in
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Now only use FC for dries (usually 9' - 5X) and add a few feet of 7X
FC to ensure a drag free drift. Found this combo to be the magic
solution to taking fish in heavily pounded waters.




Really? I would have bet that the disturbance in the film would be almost
as important as the refractive index.

As a tag on, the gauge of tippet can really have a factor on nymphs. The
bigger the profile, the more the current can have it's way on a nymph.
When I'm not getting hit on a 6x, I go down to a 7x.

IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.


Until it works for you . . . .

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:

Scott Seidman wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in
news

Now only use FC for dries (usually 9' - 5X) and add a few feet of 7X
FC to ensure a drag free drift. Found this combo to be the magic
solution to taking fish in heavily pounded waters.




Really? I would have bet that the disturbance in the film would be almost
as important as the refractive index.

As a tag on, the gauge of tippet can really have a factor on nymphs. The
bigger the profile, the more the current can have it's way on a nymph.
When I'm not getting hit on a 6x, I go down to a 7x.

IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.


Until it works for you . . . .

Peter

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Peter Charles wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:


IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.



Until it works for you . . . .

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly
the greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that
maybe he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.

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Peter Charles wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:


IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.



Until it works for you . . . .

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly
the greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that
maybe he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote in message
ink.net...
Peter Charles wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:


IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.



Until it works for you . . . .

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly the
greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that maybe
he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.


Hm.......fascinating theory. But.......um.......well, how would one ever
know.......unless one counted fish?

Wolfgang
who begins to suspect there's more to this flyfishing business than meets
the eye of the casual observer.

"rw" wrote in message
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Peter Charles wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:


IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.



Until it works for you . . . .

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly the
greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that maybe
he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.


Hm.......fascinating theory. But.......um.......well, how would one ever
know.......unless one counted fish?

Wolfgang
who begins to suspect there's more to this flyfishing business than meets
the eye of the casual observer.

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly the
greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that maybe
he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.



Hm.......fascinating theory. But.......um.......well, how would one ever
know.......unless one counted fish?

Wolfgang
who begins to suspect there's more to this flyfishing business than meets
the eye of the casual observer.

You don't have to count fish. If you're halfway competent, you will
catch fish when they start feeding. If they aren't feeding it will be
extremely difficult to catch them.

After being frustrated, and switching to FC, and finally catching a
fish, switch back to mono. I know, it's hard to do, but try it. See if
you catch another fish.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly the
greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that maybe
he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.



Hm.......fascinating theory. But.......um.......well, how would one ever
know.......unless one counted fish?

Wolfgang
who begins to suspect there's more to this flyfishing business than meets
the eye of the casual observer.

You don't have to count fish. If you're halfway competent, you will
catch fish when they start feeding. If they aren't feeding it will be
extremely difficult to catch them.

After being frustrated, and switching to FC, and finally catching a
fish, switch back to mono. I know, it's hard to do, but try it. See if
you catch another fish.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 01:54:32 GMT, rw
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:


IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.



Until it works for you . . . .

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly
the greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that
maybe he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.

OK, a bunch of fishermen are fishing a heavily pounded water and only
one is catching fish consistently. He's using 7X FC. Many other
reasons come to mind why he may be doing better but the FC lesson
stuck with me as there was nothing else he was doing that was out of
the ordinary.

Fast forward to next season and I'm fishing the worst section of that
same river for pounded fish. Can't buy a hit. Get one of the 6X FC
leaders out, attached 3' of 7X FC to it - bang, bang, bang, fish after
fish. Lose the 7X tippet and tie the fly to the 6X -- cast, cast,
cast to a rising fish -- nada. Tie back on 3' of 7 X. First cast
gets him.

What's going on?

Underneath the water, there isn't much difference, I agree -- more
marketing hype than anything else, however, FC is denser than water so
it sinks. Mono is easily trapped in the surface film. Look at
floating 7X mono and see the big, easily visible dent it makes in the
surface -- a sure sign to "experienced" fish that there's a hook in
this bug. The FC is under the water, no line dent, so whack, whack,
whack.

The difference between the 6X and 7X in my story is easy -- micro
drag. By adding 3' of 7X, I had enough slack in my leader to avoid
drag. Add this all together and FC by itself is no magic bullet, but
combined with typical presentation awareness, it will up your dry fly
success rate -- it did mine it and it was nothing about being due.


Peter

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 01:54:32 GMT, rw
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:26:16 GMT, rw
wrote:


IMO, FC leaders are a total waste of money. I also think the
effectiveness of FC tippet is also a myth.



Until it works for you . . . .

I've caught fish on FC tippet, and I've caught fish on mono tippet. It
doesn't seem to make any difference to me.

Here's what I think happens. Someone goes fishless for awhile and, in
desperation, tries FC. Then he catches a fish. Eureka! FC is suddenly
the greatest thing ever invented. It never occurs to the poor chump that
maybe he was just due.

The same thing happens with flies.

OK, a bunch of fishermen are fishing a heavily pounded water and only
one is catching fish consistently. He's using 7X FC. Many other
reasons come to mind why he may be doing better but the FC lesson
stuck with me as there was nothing else he was doing that was out of
the ordinary.

Fast forward to next season and I'm fishing the worst section of that
same river for pounded fish. Can't buy a hit. Get one of the 6X FC
leaders out, attached 3' of 7X FC to it - bang, bang, bang, fish after
fish. Lose the 7X tippet and tie the fly to the 6X -- cast, cast,
cast to a rising fish -- nada. Tie back on 3' of 7 X. First cast
gets him.

What's going on?

Underneath the water, there isn't much difference, I agree -- more
marketing hype than anything else, however, FC is denser than water so
it sinks. Mono is easily trapped in the surface film. Look at
floating 7X mono and see the big, easily visible dent it makes in the
surface -- a sure sign to "experienced" fish that there's a hook in
this bug. The FC is under the water, no line dent, so whack, whack,
whack.

The difference between the 6X and 7X in my story is easy -- micro
drag. By adding 3' of 7X, I had enough slack in my leader to avoid
drag. Add this all together and FC by itself is no magic bullet, but
combined with typical presentation awareness, it will up your dry fly
success rate -- it did mine it and it was nothing about being due.


Peter

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