Some interesting(?) history stuff...

On 2/15/05 2:21 PM, in article
, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

Your comments frequently suggest to me very much the thought processes and
history dismissive attitudes of the thankfully deceased Paul De Mann. De
Mann, a prominent Belgium Nazi in his youth, managed to hide this fact most
of his life, while building a very successful career in U.S. academe in
large part around a scholastic assertion of the impenetrability of
historical fact. Like you apparently, De Mann was not aware that there were
positive treatment protocols for the personal anguish of his situation.

I don't know this De Mann fellow, but he sure sounds a lot like the late
deconstructionist Paul de Man.

Bill

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Zzzzzzzzzzzz.......huh?.......oh...........another
Snedeker........zzzzzzzzzzz.........


About what I'd expect you to say.

We aims to please.

And allot cheaper than dealing with the
obvious mental effects (and affects) of your own origins.

My origins? Nothing very remarkable there. Born of woman, in the
usual way........or, so I'm told. You?

Your comments frequently suggest to me very much the thought
processes and
history dismissive attitudes of the thankfully deceased Paul De
Mann.

What things suggest to you is a source of endless fascination to me.
I've missed out little chats lately. Have you been terribly busy?

De
Mann, a prominent Belgium Nazi in his youth, managed to hide this
fact most
of his life, while building a very successful career in U.S. academe
in
large part around a scholastic assertion of the impenetrability of
historical fact.

Interesting. Sounds like the kind of guy who would see Israelis
lurking under every rock.

Like you apparently, De Mann was not aware that there were
positive treatment protocols for the personal anguish of his
situation.

Well, I have a legitimate excuse........I'd never heard of him before
now. What a pity that YOU didn't tell him about his options.

And on another note . . . the Americas do have a history clown boy,

Izzatafact? Well, I'll be jiggered.

and it
is considered quite normal for people to be interested in the roles
played
by their forebearers, positive and negative, in that history.

Seems normal enough to me. And your observation is proof positive (if
it were needed) that pathology doesn't necessarily preclude an
occasional flash of near average insight.

Wolfgang
who considers it quite normal for people to be uninterested in a nut
case's grandiose illusions of olympian descent.

"William Claspy" wrote in message
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On 2/15/05 2:21 PM, in article
, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

SNIP. Like you apparently, De Mann was not aware that there were
positive treatment protocols for the personal anguish of his situation.

I don't know this De Mann fellow, but he sure sounds a lot like the late
deconstructionist Paul de Man.

Bill

And you are right per the spelling of course.

Dave

well, I found the story mildly interesting on a slow day. Of course, as a
lay-person, you could have no way of knowing that they were storing the aged
documents in archival-quality manila folders. Look just like the cheap-ass
kind at a glance. Only the real pros get their hands on them for
Jeffersonian era documents and suchg. I'm sure the file cabinets are
climate controlled as well......
I return you to your continued abuse,
Tom

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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We aims to please.

Actually you aim to **** off folk.

And allot cheaper than dealing with the
obvious mental effects (and affects) of your own origins.

My origins? Nothing very remarkable there. Born of woman, in the
usual way........or, so I'm told. You?


You know precisely what I am referring to.

Your comments frequently suggest to me very much the thought
processes and history dismissive attitudes of the thankfully deceased
Paul De Mann. What things suggest to you is a source of endless
fascination to me.
I've missed out little chats lately. Have you been terribly busy?


Too busy to waste time on you. But I have noticed that you seem to have a
real pain in the ass since your week at the Ramrod.

De Mann, a prominent Belgium Nazi in his youth, managed to hide this
fact most of his life, while building a very successful career in U.S.
academe
in large part around a scholastic assertion of the impenetrability of
historical fact.

Interesting. Sounds like the kind of guy who would see Israelis
lurking under every rock.

You just love to over compensate by parroting the most narrow-minded slogans
at the drop of a hat. You are too ignorant to know that close to half of
Israeli adults share my views on the need to return most of the occupied
lands to the Palestinians, as does an increasing portion of non-muslim
Americans.


Well, I have a legitimate excuse........I'd never heard of ( DeMann)him
before
now. What a pity that YOU didn't tell him about his options.

Claspy's spelling is the correct one: de Man"

Wolfgang
who considers it quite normal for people to be uninterested in a nut
case's grandiose illusions of olympian descent.


What is "Olympian" about having a Spanish diplomat as an ancestor? He was
mainly trying to describe how he was able to penetrate a bureaucratic
mindset and touch a bit of personal history.

Dave

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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We aims to please.

Actually you aim to **** off folk.

Some.

And allot cheaper than dealing with the
obvious mental effects (and affects) of your own origins.

My origins? Nothing very remarkable there. Born of woman, in the
usual way........or, so I'm told. You?


You know precisely what I am referring to.

I do. On the other hand, you have no more idea what I'm saying in this
instance than you ever do. Some things don't change, huh Davie?

Your comments frequently suggest to me very much the thought
processes and history dismissive attitudes of the thankfully deceased
Paul De Mann. What things suggest to you is a source of endless
fascination to me.
I've missed out little chats lately. Have you been terribly busy?


Too busy to waste time on you.

And yet.........

But I have noticed that you seem to have a
real pain in the ass since your week at the Ramrod.


Whatever that might mean, one is almost forced to wonder how you would come
to that conclusion......what with being to busy to bother and all that.

De Mann, a prominent Belgium Nazi in his youth, managed to hide this
fact most of his life, while building a very successful career in U.S.
academe
in large part around a scholastic assertion of the impenetrability of
historical fact.

Interesting. Sounds like the kind of guy who would see Israelis
lurking under every rock.

You just love to over compensate

For what?

by parroting the most narrow-minded slogans
at the drop of a hat.

Slogan? Did I utter a slogan and not notice? Perhaps you could give me a
hint?

You are too ignorant to know that close to half of
Israeli adults share my views on the need to return most of the occupied
lands to the Palestinians, as does an increasing portion of non-muslim
Americans.

I'm not so ignorant as to believe anything you say without substantial
corroboration. Moreover, having grown up among rabid anti-semites, I know
the smell when I encounter it.

Well, I have a legitimate excuse........I'd never heard of ( DeMann)him
before
now. What a pity that YOU didn't tell him about his options.

Claspy's spelling is the correct one: de Man"

So? Did *I* misspell the man's name?

Wolfgang
who considers it quite normal for people to be uninterested in a nut
case's grandiose illusions of olympian descent.


What is "Olympian" about having a Spanish diplomat as an ancestor?

Did *I* mention a "Spanish diplomat"? Did I mention someone who may or may
not have had a "Spanish diplomat" for an ancestor? Do I look like someone
who gives **** who may or may not have had a "Spanish diplomat" for an
ancestor? Do I, for that matter, look like someone who might care what you
might have to say about someone who may or may not have had a "Spanish
diplomat" for an ancestor, or what you might have to say about what I might
or might not have to say about such an individual with or without a "Spanish
diplomat" for an ancestor?

He was
mainly trying to describe how he was able to penetrate a bureaucratic
mindset and touch a bit of personal history.

He? Who? dick? So? Is there a point to any of this?

Wolfgang
who, if he were going to try to convince a literate audience that the object
of his rage had inserted a parenthetical comment (say, for example, a
misspelled name) when he had actually done no such thing, would probably at
least remember to insert a space between the bogus insertion and the next
word.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:49:43 -0500, William Claspy
wrote:

On 2/15/05 2:21 PM, in article
, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

Your comments frequently suggest to me very much the thought processes and
history dismissive attitudes of the thankfully deceased Paul De Mann. De
Mann, a prominent Belgium Nazi in his youth, managed to hide this fact most
of his life, while building a very successful career in U.S. academe in
large part around a scholastic assertion of the impenetrability of
historical fact. Like you apparently, De Mann was not aware that there were
positive treatment protocols for the personal anguish of his situation.

I don't know this De Mann fellow, but he sure sounds a lot like the late
deconstructionist Paul de Man.

****housemouse! His brother, Bennie de Man, hangs out playing sax -
badly - on the corner of St. Peter and Royal in the Vieux Carre...of
course, he's more of an obstructionist...well, an obstruction, anyway...

TC,
R

On 2/15/05 6:54 PM, in article ,
" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:49:43 -0500, William Claspy
wrote:

On 2/15/05 2:21 PM, in article
, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

Your comments frequently suggest to me very much the thought processes and
history dismissive attitudes of the thankfully deceased Paul De Mann. De
Mann, a prominent Belgium Nazi in his youth, managed to hide this fact most
of his life, while building a very successful career in U.S. academe in
large part around a scholastic assertion of the impenetrability of
historical fact. Like you apparently, De Mann was not aware that there were
positive treatment protocols for the personal anguish of his situation.

I don't know this De Mann fellow, but he sure sounds a lot like the late
deconstructionist Paul de Man.

****housemouse! His brother, Bennie de Man, hangs out playing sax -
badly - on the corner of St. Peter and Royal in the Vieux Carre...of
course, he's more of an obstructionist...well, an obstruction, anyway...

You de man, R, you de man.

Bill

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:03:24 GMT, "Thomas Littleton"
wrote:

well, I found the story mildly interesting on a slow day. Of course, as a
lay-person, you could have no way of knowing that they were storing the aged
documents in archival-quality manila folders. Look just like the cheap-ass
kind at a glance. Only the real pros get their hands on them for
Jeffersonian era documents and suchg. I'm sure the file cabinets are
climate controlled as well......
I return you to your continued abuse,
Tom

Well, that makes me feel better...it ought to help prevent the Monroe
Doctrine from getting moldy...the men's room was out of towels, and
since they got SO touchy about the Declaration of Ind...er, nevermind...

TC,
R

wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:38:19 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

I'm guessing it wasn't so much the crayons as the fact that they weren't yet
blunted.

Like I said, they weren't crayons, and I don't need Viagra...blunted,
hell, 12 bald eagles can perch on it...

OK, OK! So the last eagle has to stand on one leg...

Padishar, Re your question about the NY Times article....