I'm sure that 40 was going to post this link...

Danl wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:
The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then again, I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)

Maybe, just maybe, the reason that so much Bud and Chef-boyardee are sold is
that they are really, really cheap and, especially in the case of Bud
(pardon the pun), the sellers spend 40 bazillion dollars per day molding
moldable minds into buying their cheap, canned products.

"good canned Italian food" and "good canned beers" have to be two of the
greatest "Instant Classics" (TM) in the oxymoron category that we are
likely to witness.

Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

But here's my challenge to you, Mr. Flatulence In Every Glass
Fancy Shmancy Home Brewer, brew up your best pilsner and we'll
let a dozen random beer drinkers do a blind taste test with your
best and a brewery fresh Budweiser from St. Louis.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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lid says...
Danl wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:
The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then again, I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)

Maybe, just maybe, the reason that so much Bud and Chef-boyardee are sold is
that they are really, really cheap and, especially in the case of Bud
(pardon the pun), the sellers spend 40 bazillion dollars per day molding
moldable minds into buying their cheap, canned products.

"good canned Italian food" and "good canned beers" have to be two of the
greatest "Instant Classics" (TM) in the oxymoron category that we are
likely to witness.

Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

Are you saying that Danl's an elitist?

Elitist who agrees with Ken: Good taste.
Elitist who disagrees with Ken: Snob.

Bud is a vile nasty disgusting mass produced overpriced can of
excrement. The fact that mass marketing has convinced millions of
clueless folks otherwise is a testament to them having an excellent
marketting department, nothing more nothing less.
- Ken

If only Lone Star had hired me as their VP of Marketing....And imroved the
tast of theirs by mixing 3/4 original and 1/4 of Danl's. Bud would be
seriously picking up the pace because we would be closing quickly.
G

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In article ,
lid says...
Danl wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:
The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's
fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then again,
I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)

Maybe, just maybe, the reason that so much Bud and Chef-boyardee are
sold is
that they are really, really cheap and, especially in the case of Bud
(pardon the pun), the sellers spend 40 bazillion dollars per day
molding
moldable minds into buying their cheap, canned products.

"good canned Italian food" and "good canned beers" have to be two of
the
greatest "Instant Classics" (TM) in the oxymoron category that we are
likely to witness.

Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

Are you saying that Danl's an elitist?

Elitist who agrees with Ken: Good taste.
Elitist who disagrees with Ken: Snob.

Bud is a vile nasty disgusting mass produced overpriced can of
excrement. The fact that mass marketing has convinced millions of
clueless folks otherwise is a testament to them having an excellent
marketting department, nothing more nothing less.
- Ken

Correction!!!
That was not a slam on your home brew Danl!
Lone Star should take a lesson to improve their watery p__s.
Being in Texas, it would be great to drink a Texas beer without gagging.
Guy

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
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If only Lone Star had hired me as their VP of Marketing....And imroved
the
tast of theirs by mixing 3/4 original and 1/4 of Danl's. Bud would be
seriously picking up the pace because we would be closing quickly.
G

wrote in message
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In article ,
lid says...
Danl wrote:
"Tim J." wrote:
The most probable reason is that little kids like it and it's
fast/easy
to make. I don't know many adults that like Chef Boyardee. Then
again,
I
don't know many adults that like Bud. ;-)

Maybe, just maybe, the reason that so much Bud and Chef-boyardee are
sold is
that they are really, really cheap and, especially in the case of
Bud
(pardon the pun), the sellers spend 40 bazillion dollars per day
molding
moldable minds into buying their cheap, canned products.

"good canned Italian food" and "good canned beers" have to be two of
the
greatest "Instant Classics" (TM) in the oxymoron category that we
are
likely to witness.

Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

Are you saying that Danl's an elitist?

Elitist who agrees with Ken: Good taste.
Elitist who disagrees with Ken: Snob.

Bud is a vile nasty disgusting mass produced overpriced can of
excrement. The fact that mass marketing has convinced millions of
clueless folks otherwise is a testament to them having an excellent
marketting department, nothing more nothing less.
- Ken

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

Well, I don't let talking frogs, lizards, and Clydesdales tell me what to
drink, if that's what you mean. And it was a panel of knowledgeable experts
that wrote the column in the OP. Not a bunch of Madison Avenue schlock
dealers spending a bazillion dollars trying to convince people to consume
their product. If their product is so damn good, why spend a bazillion
dollars per day on advertising?


But here's my challenge to you, Mr. Flatulence In Every Glass
Fancy Shmancy Home Brewer, brew up your best pilsner and we'll
let a dozen random beer drinkers do a blind taste test with your
best and a brewery fresh Budweiser from St. Louis.

I've entered my brews in many contests and have won a few ribbons. But the
point of the OP wasn't my homebrewed beers vs. bud. It was bud vs. other
commercially available beers. And, as usual bud came out stinking like the
horse **** it is.

Here's another Instant Classic (TM) oxymoron from/for you: "Brewery Fresh
Pilsner". Kinda like "Distillery Fresh Single Malt" .

Danl

Danl wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...

Well, thank god there's people like you with unmoldable minds
who can tell the rest of us what's good and what's not.

Well, I don't let talking frogs, lizards, and Clydesdales tell me what to
drink, if that's what you mean.

We are indeed fortunate to have you telling us what to drink
instead of all those Madison Avenue critters. Tell me, what
beer goes best with an afternoon of college baseball ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Danl wrote:best and a brewery fresh Budweiser from St. Louis.


I've entered my brews in many contests and have won a few ribbons.

not to intrude in a fine tar baby tussle, but...uh...will you...uh...be
bringing any of your homebrew to the madison this year? i'll bring
several ribbons!! the brew you shared at henrys fork was my only
experience with gourmet beer, and i enjoyed it immensely...though all
those other *******s slurping at it did prevent me from having the full
and proper gustatory experience i would have preferred. g

jeff

Ken challenges:
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But here's my challenge to you, Mr. Flatulence In Every Glass
Fancy Shmancy Home Brewer, brew up your best pilsner and we'll
let a dozen random beer drinkers do a blind taste test with your
best and a brewery fresh Budweiser from St. Louis.
=============

No contest. ANYBODY can brew a better beer than the commercial brewers.
Home-built wine may be another matter, but you'd have to be a complete
idiot to do a worse job than any big brewery.

frtzw906

BCITORGB wrote:
Ken challenges:
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But here's my challenge to you, Mr. Flatulence In Every Glass
Fancy Shmancy Home Brewer, brew up your best pilsner and we'll
let a dozen random beer drinkers do a blind taste test with your
best and a brewery fresh Budweiser from St. Louis.
=============

No contest. ANYBODY can brew a better beer than the commercial brewers.
Home-built wine may be another matter, but you'd have to be a complete
idiot to do a worse job than any big brewery.

I've been issuing that challenge for going on 20 years now
and no home brewer has *ever* taken it. They'll hem and haw
and change the subject just like dear old Dan'l or they'll
mutter something about walk-in coolers, but they'll never
take you up on it. Beers like Budweiser are *not* easy to
brew at home and it's one hell of a home brewer who can even
get *close* to a pilsner as good as a Budweiser.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I've been issuing that challenge for going on 20 years now
and no home brewer has *ever* taken it. They'll hem and haw
and change the subject just like dear old Dan'l or they'll
mutter something about walk-in coolers, but they'll never
take you up on it. Beers like Budweiser are *not* easy to
brew at home and it's one hell of a home brewer who can even
get *close* to a pilsner as good as a Budweiser.

Out of curiosity, I looked up a homebrewer discussion of how to clone
Budweiser:

http://hbd.org/discus/messages/1/28768.html

It's fairly hilarious. The most interesting advice was to use Minute
Rice (because it's pregelatinized) and almost no hops at all. Here's a
post that sums up the problem of cloning Budweiser:

"I am a big fan of cloning brews. I have made heiniken, newcastle brown
ale, and various other homebrews that imitate commercial beers. I have
always received the same response from my college peers, "Wow, tastes
almost exactly like it, except better!" Bear in mind that as a
homebrewer your product as well as the ingredients you use will be
fresher than the commercial version. Imagine it like this. Try to
duplicate a McDonalds double cheeseburger in your kitchen. Since
McDonalds uses such crap ingredients and microwaves everything, it would
be very hard for you to make the same exact product. Instead you would
make something that tasted similar to it, but your burger would probably
taste ten times better. You would use better beef, fresher cheese, and
probably use a grill over a microwave. I found that the parallel between
McDonalds for food, and Bud for beer is quite scary. My friends ask me
why my beers have such flavor and bud tastes like water. My answer is;
how can McDonalds make a double cheeseburger for 99cents, when a small
soft drink from them is $1.30? The same way Bud can make a beer for a
fraction of a penny by using virtually little to no ingredients. Scary huh?"


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