Lulea Sweden

Hi,
I will be in Lulea, Northern Sweden for a wedding July 21-26. Can
anyone give me information about FFing prospects (mainly trout but would
of course be intersted in sea trout and perhaps salmon (no real
experience of either of the latter))

Thanks,

Gordon

Last I was there, there weren't no trout, sea trout or greyling. Not
even any bugs!
Vaughan, can you help this guy out?

--riverman

(and how's the new place looking?)

riverman wrote:
Last I was there, there weren't no trout, sea trout or greyling. Not
even any bugs!
Vaughan, can you help this guy out?
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--riverman
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(and how's the new place looking?)
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Now be fair mate, we never actually drove through Lule=E5, so there might=
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have been fish there........ The yard is starting to thaw out and is=20
mostly ice clear and we haven't sunk too deep into the swamp. Then again =

the ground hasn't fully thawed yet so I am not feeling to cocky. In=20
another month I will know for sure. Are you coming by this summer? Or=20
are you busy getting organized for your little rant to the Orient? You=20
are welcome if you have the time. So far as I know no clave is planned=20
but plenty of fishing has been........

To answer the original question, some of the local boys are better to=20
give advice than I am, but you could look at:

http://biphome.spray.se/angler/ or
http://www.secretcreeks.com/ or
http://www.fjallen.nu/fiska/index_en.htm

to get an idea. There are LOTS of other sites and lots of great fishing. =

Lots of not so great as well so take a look at these sites and a map and =

then let us know how far do you want to travel and how long you have.....=
=2E.

/Vaughan

riverman wrote:
Last I was there, there weren't no trout, sea trout or greyling. Not
even any bugs!
Vaughan, can you help this guy out?
=20
--riverman
=20
(and how's the new place looking?)
=20
Now be fair mate, we never actually drove through Lule=E5, so there might=
=20
have been fish there........ The yard is starting to thaw out and is=20
mostly ice clear and we haven't sunk too deep into the swamp. Then again =

the ground hasn't fully thawed yet so I am not feeling to cocky. In=20
another month I will know for sure. Are you coming by this summer? Or=20
are you busy getting organized for your little rant to the Orient? You=20
are welcome if you have the time. So far as I know no clave is planned=20
but plenty of fishing has been........

To answer the original question, some of the local boys are better to=20
give advice than I am, but you could look at:

http://biphome.spray.se/angler/ or
http://www.secretcreeks.com/ or
http://www.fjallen.nu/fiska/index_en.htm

to get an idea. There are LOTS of other sites and lots of great fishing. =

Lots of not so great as well so take a look at these sites and a map and =

then let us know how far do you want to travel and how long you have.....=
=2E.

/Vaughan

Hi Gordon.. Vaughan, Riverman

Luleå, that's my "neighbourhood". I live 130km south of Luleå, but I
spent the whole autumn,
august to november, in Luleå. I did some flyfishing during my stay. Although
I already had some
ideas on where to go fishing, I started out talking to some guys in the
local fishing shop. For daytrips
they recommended Råne River (in swedish: Råneälven), being the closest spot
for decent
streamfishing for trout & grayling. It's about an hour of driving away,
north of Luleå. The Luleå
flyfishing club has an exclusive stretch for members in this river. But
that's only 4km out
of maybe 200km, so there's plenty of other spots to choose from. I had good
fishing for char, but
didnt catch any decent sized trouts. But it's a beautiful river and the
trouts are definately in there.

There are of course plenty of other waters too. The Åby River (Åbyälven) and
the Byske
River (Byskeälven) are also good alternatives about an hour of driving from
Luleå, both direction to the
south. Byske River is definately the most well-known of the mentioned
rivers. It's where to go if you'd
be interested in salmons. If trout is the target, any of the three rivers
would be good alternatives, I'd say.

I am also the webmaster of the secretcreeks.com-website, that Vaughan
referrred to.
If you go to www.secretcreeks.com, and click on 'Råneälven' or any of the
other rivers in the left
menu you'll find photos of the rivers. B.t.w., I just established a forum
on this site. Not overly enormous
activity there yet, but if you have more questions regarding fishing in
northern Sweden, please register
a user, post your questions and me, Vaughan or any of the other guys will
answer your questions.

Best Regards

/Erik Holmlund, Skellefteå
www.secretcreeks.com


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Vaughan Hurry wrote in message .. .
riverman wrote:
Last I was there, there weren't no trout, sea trout or greyling. Not
even any bugs!
Vaughan, can you help this guy out?
=20
--riverman
=20
(and how's the new place looking?)
=20
Now be fair mate, we never actually drove through Lule=E5, so there might=
=20
have been fish there........ The yard is starting to thaw out and is=20
mostly ice clear and we haven't sunk too deep into the swamp. Then again =

the ground hasn't fully thawed yet so I am not feeling to cocky. In=20
another month I will know for sure. Are you coming by this summer? Or=20
are you busy getting organized for your little rant to the Orient? You=20
are welcome if you have the time. So far as I know no clave is planned=20
but plenty of fishing has been........


I don't think I'll be able to get up there this summer, Vaughan. Congo
finishes late and Hong Kong starts early, so I only have 6 days open
before summer school, and 6 days after. Basically, this will be the
summer without a summer. Bummer.

However, SWMBO is starting her 2-year program in London this summer,
and I'm finishing mine this year, so next year I will have the entire
summer free. I might accompany her to the northlands and spend a big
chunk of it in scandahoovia. I have this sinking feeling that my
cherished summer trips up to that slice of heaven are tracking away
from me as life takes its course. You know how much I love that part
of the world, but sometimes life carries us in and out and its just
too damn hard to steer it. Are there any trips to NZ in your future?
I'd certainly be in interested in making my way down there to meet up
and fish.

--riverman

riverman wrote:

I don't think I'll be able to get up there this summer, Vaughan. Congo
finishes late and Hong Kong starts early, so I only have 6 days open
before summer school, and 6 days after. Basically, this will be the
summer without a summer. Bummer.

However, SWMBO is starting her 2-year program in London this summer,
and I'm finishing mine this year, so next year I will have the entire
summer free. I might accompany her to the northlands and spend a big
chunk of it in scandahoovia. I have this sinking feeling that my
cherished summer trips up to that slice of heaven are tracking away
from me as life takes its course. You know how much I love that part
of the world, but sometimes life carries us in and out and its just
too damn hard to steer it. Are there any trips to NZ in your future?
I'd certainly be in interested in making my way down there to meet up
and fish.

--riverman

Bugger! I did kinda figure............NZ is possible over the next
couple of years but I am not sure, depends on how the research goes (and
the funding). I'll let you know if I get the chance. I have fished there
in February and July and both trips were amazing. Cicada fishing in
February was probably the most enjoyable.

Good luck in Hong Kong

Vaughan

That's true. As a teacher, I am clearly aware that being away from the
desk for 8 weeks a year is one aspect of the job that most other
professions do not get. Teaching has it shortcomings, of course, but so
does every occupation. I like my job, and I like having some time in
the summer to go fishing!

And likewise, its not as much vacation as most think. Those of you in
the profession know what I am talking about, and most of those not in
the profession generally aren't convinced unless they had parents who
were teachers.

--riverman

riverman wrote:

That's true. As a teacher, I am clearly aware that being away from the
desk for 8 weeks a year is one aspect of the job that most other
professions do not get. Teaching has it shortcomings, of course, but so
does every occupation. I like my job, and I like having some time in
the summer to go fishing!

And likewise, its not as much vacation as most think. Those of you in
the profession know what I am talking about, and most of those not in
the profession generally aren't convinced unless they had parents who
were teachers.

--riverman


i am frequently surprised by how few people really grasp or care about
the horrible inequity in the work environment and pay structure for our
public elementary and secondary school teachers. for any teacher who
cares about his/her profession, the workdays are unending and
obligations extend throughout the summer; too few folks appreciate the
devotion of those teaching the public's community of children; the
available classroom resources are always lean; course design and
management are often controlled by some bureaucrat in a central office,
bowing to political pressure; the kids are frequently hostile and behave
poorly, with little motivation for learning or to be taught; and the pay
is terrible. i'm ashamed to say that a 1st year teacher with a masters
degree and all proper teaching credentials in my city's schools has a
starting pay of a little over 29k...and it takes 20 years before he/she
can expect to earn over 40k.

it's shameful and ridiculous.

jeff (and none of my family were/are teachers)

"Jeff Miller" wrote

i'm ashamed to say that a 1st year teacher with a masters
degree and all proper teaching credentials in my city's schools has a
starting pay of a little over 29k...and it takes 20 years before he/she
can expect to earn over 40k.

it's shameful and ridiculous.


what, you mean to tell me that ron artest isn't worth, like, 40k a
****ing week?

yfitp
wayno (i mean, just think of the role model aspect!)

Jeff Miller wrote:
i'm ashamed to say that a 1st year teacher with a masters
degree and all proper teaching credentials in my city's schools has a

starting pay of a little over 29k...and it takes 20 years before
he/she
can expect to earn over 40k.


Working 10 months out of the year, 29K would equate to 35K for the rest
of us. Not a bad start, when you consider how relatively easy it is to
obtain an education degree and the lack of real knowledge on a subject
needed to *teach* it in some states, it is not unrealistic to expect
lowered salaries. (Please note i did not say teachers did not *know*
their subjects in all cases)

Elementary and Secondary education is not the noble profession many
folks make it out to be. Can some teachers make a difference in some
kid's life, of course. it still does not the whole profession noble.

You want to raise teacher salaries? Raise the bar to get in.

Wayne
I might have left this alone if I wasn't writing checks to the IRS and
state today after receiving my property tax bill yesterday.