Okeechobee Bound?

$15.00 per dozen!!! Wow... but I think I can handle that. Afterall, how many
times in my life am I going to get to fish Okeechobee?

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
"Moe Conway" wrote in message
...
I got a question for ye Moe... On one of the pre-fishing days, I'm
planning
on picking up some shiners and seeing what happens. What sort of terminal
tackle am I going to need for this?

Ok, here's another. If I find fish using shiners, what are the chances
that
I'll be able to trick them into biting artificial baits later?

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

Charles, if you plan of fishing shiners, you need a 7' rod spooled with
20+
test. Make sure the rod has enough backbone to work the fish from the
grass.
Plan on spending around $15 a dozen for the bait.

To anwser your 2nd question, shiners or live bait are often used to locate
fish. Several tournaments have been won on fish located with live bait.
The key
is finding a method to make them bite. If the fish are active, this
doesn't
pose a problem but if not, then you need to experiment until you find what
it
takes. Locating the fish is always the hardest part in my opinion. If I
can't
get located fish to bite, I often downsize my equipment and baits and try
to
finess them. This seems to work almost anywhere.


--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index

Not sure if it will help but I use minnows / shiners alot and found it was
much cheaper to just buy a galvanized minnow trap and catch what I needed .
These can be found at Wally world for under $10 usually and catch much more
than a dozen .

If you do locate fish with minnows it would be a good bet that some various
light or silver colored crankbaits in various sizes and running depths
should get some good results ... you could also try a few imitation minnows
in both crankbait and topwater varieties .

Ed Hughes

"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in message
...
$15.00 per dozen!!! Wow... but I think I can handle that. Afterall, how
many
times in my life am I going to get to fish Okeechobee?

"Moe Conway" wrote in message
...

Charles, if you plan of fishing shiners, you need a 7' rod spooled with
20+
test. Make sure the rod has enough backbone to work the fish from the
grass.
Plan on spending around $15 a dozen for the bait.

To anwser your 2nd question, shiners or live bait are often used to
locate
fish. Several tournaments have been won on fish located with live bait.
The key
is finding a method to make them bite. If the fish are active, this
doesn't
pose a problem but if not, then you need to experiment until you find
what
it
takes. Locating the fish is always the hardest part in my opinion. If I
can't
get located fish to bite, I often downsize my equipment and baits and
try
to
finess them. This seems to work almost anywhere.


--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index

After you hook the minnow Charles, snip part of it's tail off, they swim
around in circles until that Lunker bass can't stand it anymore and puts the
creature out of it's misery, I also like to fish them without bobbers or
anything else, just a hook,line, rod and reel
"Ed Hughes" wrote in message
...
Not sure if it will help but I use minnows / shiners alot and found it was
much cheaper to just buy a galvanized minnow trap and catch what I needed
..
These can be found at Wally world for under $10 usually and catch much
more
than a dozen .

If you do locate fish with minnows it would be a good bet that some
various
light or silver colored crankbaits in various sizes and running depths
should get some good results ... you could also try a few imitation
minnows
in both crankbait and topwater varieties .

Ed Hughes

"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in message
...
$15.00 per dozen!!! Wow... but I think I can handle that. Afterall, how
many
times in my life am I going to get to fish Okeechobee?

"Moe Conway" wrote in message
...

Charles, if you plan of fishing shiners, you need a 7' rod spooled
with
20+
test. Make sure the rod has enough backbone to work the fish from the
grass.
Plan on spending around $15 a dozen for the bait.

To anwser your 2nd question, shiners or live bait are often used to
locate
fish. Several tournaments have been won on fish located with live
bait.
The key
is finding a method to make them bite. If the fish are active, this
doesn't
pose a problem but if not, then you need to experiment until you find
what
it
takes. Locating the fish is always the hardest part in my opinion. If
I
can't
get located fish to bite, I often downsize my equipment and baits and
try
to
finess them. This seems to work almost anywhere.


--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index

After you hook the minnow Charles, snip part of it's tail off, they swim
around in circles until that Lunker bass can't stand it anymore

LOL Randy, our minnows as you so lovenly call them can weigh up to a pound
apiece and go 13" or better. I perfer those in the 4 to 6 inch range myself but
have used the monsters at times when a client is lunker hunting only. Fewer
bites but the smaller bass usually leave them alone.

--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index

Ok Charles, hence the price tag, change the snip to a cut and they will swim
around in circles until that Lunker bass can't stand it no more, when I get
down there I wouldn't mind throwing some minnows myself.
"Moe Conway" wrote in message
...
After you hook the minnow Charles, snip part of it's tail off, they swim
around in circles until that Lunker bass can't stand it anymore

LOL Randy, our minnows as you so lovenly call them can weigh up to a pound
apiece and go 13" or better. I perfer those in the 4 to 6 inch range
myself but
have used the monsters at times when a client is lunker hunting only.
Fewer
bites but the smaller bass usually leave them alone.

--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index

Not sure if it will help but I use minnows / shiners alot and found it was
much cheaper to just buy a galvanized minnow trap and catch what I needed .
These can be found at Wally world for under $10 usually and catch much more
than a dozen .

Don't think you are gonna catch the right size bait in that trap. Shiners used
there are 6 to 10 inches long, I think.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

I'm not familiar with what the local minnow types are in Fl . Here I catch
spotted tail and glass minnows up to as much as 6 or 8 inches ... I've had
times where the trap would get full in a single toss and by full I am
talking in the range of 4 dozen minnows all crammed in so it looks like a
sardine can more than a minnow trap . usually bread will do the trick as a
reliable bait in the trap ..but if more ammo is needed any combination or
substitution of garlic / cheese bread , cheese ritz crackers , cheese twists
, and cheese slices will double and triple the yeild as well as the size of
minnows atracted to the trap .
As for the tail clipping I usually tail hook the minnow so it swims in an
eratic manner and stays lively for a very long time without having to resort
to altering it .
I also try the method of bare rig minnow fishing from time to time and have
had a bit of success with it .

Ed
"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Not sure if it will help but I use minnows / shiners alot and found it
was
much cheaper to just buy a galvanized minnow trap and catch what I needed
..
These can be found at Wally world for under $10 usually and catch much
more
than a dozen .

Don't think you are gonna catch the right size bait in that trap. Shiners
used
there are 6 to 10 inches long, I think.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in message ...
$15.00 per dozen!!! Wow... but I think I can handle that. Afterall, how many
times in my life am I going to get to fish Okeechobee?

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As often as you want. As a few members here can attest I'll do my best to put you on fish (and a bigger boat later this summer),
give you a free place to stay, and show you some of the smaller waters holding fish. No hitches, it's just alot more fun fishing
with company. Doc

"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in message
...
$15.00 per dozen!!! Wow... but I think I can handle that. Afterall, how
many
times in my life am I going to get to fish Okeechobee?

LOL, I remember when I first fished with Moe. My son and I were down there,
and we stopped in Fellsmere to get some bait. I'm used to northern shiners
and when I go out, I usually get a bunch because they're not real hardy.

I told the guy I wanted 10 dozen wild shiners. He looked at me and said,
that'll be $150. After I got done choking, I said, "Why don't you give me 4
dozen?"
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Charles,when you see that 8" shiner working a weedline and your float goes
under,you are going to be spoiled,especially when that 10# hawg yanks on
your arm!
Remember to reel down to the fish,and when you set the hook don't leave
anything to the imagination.
Then it's a state law that you have to yell SON!!!!
Charles B. Summers cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in message
...
$15.00 per dozen!!! Wow... but I think I can handle that. Afterall, how
many
times in my life am I going to get to fish Okeechobee?

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
"Moe Conway" wrote in message
...
I got a question for ye Moe... On one of the pre-fishing days, I'm
planning
on picking up some shiners and seeing what happens. What sort of
terminal
tackle am I going to need for this?

Ok, here's another. If I find fish using shiners, what are the chances
that
I'll be able to trick them into biting artificial baits later?

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

Charles, if you plan of fishing shiners, you need a 7' rod spooled with
20+
test. Make sure the rod has enough backbone to work the fish from the
grass.
Plan on spending around $15 a dozen for the bait.

To anwser your 2nd question, shiners or live bait are often used to
locate
fish. Several tournaments have been won on fish located with live bait.
The key
is finding a method to make them bite. If the fish are active, this
doesn't
pose a problem but if not, then you need to experiment until you find
what
it
takes. Locating the fish is always the hardest part in my opinion. If I
can't
get located fish to bite, I often downsize my equipment and baits and
try
to
finess them. This seems to work almost anywhere.


--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index