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Old May 5th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Frank Reid
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Chinook fish counts on the Columbia River are down 1/2 to 2/3rds.


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Old May 5th, 2005, 04:06 PM
JR
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Frank Reid wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7708591

Chinook fish counts on the Columbia River are down 1/2 to 2/3rds.


And the big debate in these parts is over shooting sea lions that have
taken to hanging out in the fish ladders at the dams.....

JR
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Old May 5th, 2005, 05:20 PM
BJ Conner
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You can stop at a number of places along the Columbia between Portland
and Bonneville and buy salmon from native americans. I could never
understand why you couldn't buy a seal skin rug or a steak from them.
I alway though the perfect solution to the "Herschel" problem was to
shoot him and have a seal bar-b-que in the park right at Ballard Locks.

It seems logical if you have the rights to gill net salmon, chase
whales an a log canoe ( with an outboard motor ) then whats a dead seal
( or a dozen or so).
Everything I've read about how good seal taste was written by people
who were hungry enought to eat spegatti-Os and drink budwiser.a

JR wrote:
Frank Reid wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7708591

Chinook fish counts on the Columbia River are down 1/2 to 2/3rds.


And the big debate in these parts is over shooting sea lions that

have
taken to hanging out in the fish ladders at the dams.....

JR


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Old May 8th, 2005, 07:22 AM
chas
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"BJ Conner" wrote:
You can stop at a number of places along the Columbia between Portland
and Bonneville and buy salmon from native americans. I could never
understand why you couldn't buy a seal skin rug or a steak from them.
I alway though the perfect solution to the "Herschel" problem was to
shoot him and have a seal bar-b-que in the park right at Ballard Locks.

It seems logical if you have the rights to gill net salmon, chase
whales an a log canoe ( with an outboard motor ) then whats a dead seal
( or a dozen or so).
Everything I've read about how good seal taste was written by people
who were hungry enought to eat spegatti-Os and drink budwiser.a


It turns out sea lions don't tast any good, and the fur is uninteresting as
well. The local tribes couldn't in good conscience kill the beasts because
they knew the carcase would be wasted. We, on the other hand, aren't burdened
with such scruples...

Chas
remove fly fish to e mail directly

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Old May 9th, 2005, 01:30 AM
BJ Conner
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Well you can make chilli our of anything.
I once has salmon chili, there's a reason you never hear of it. Seal
chili has to be better.
chas wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote:
You can stop at a number of places along the Columbia between

Portland
and Bonneville and buy salmon from native americans. I could never
understand why you couldn't buy a seal skin rug or a steak from

them.
I alway though the perfect solution to the "Herschel" problem was to
shoot him and have a seal bar-b-que in the park right at Ballard

Locks.

It seems logical if you have the rights to gill net salmon, chase
whales an a log canoe ( with an outboard motor ) then whats a dead

seal
( or a dozen or so).
Everything I've read about how good seal taste was written by people
who were hungry enought to eat spegatti-Os and drink budwiser.a


It turns out sea lions don't tast any good, and the fur is

uninteresting as
well. The local tribes couldn't in good conscience kill the beasts

because
they knew the carcase would be wasted. We, on the other hand, aren't

burdened
with such scruples...

Chas
remove fly fish to e mail directly


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Old May 9th, 2005, 11:55 PM
Skwala
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"chas" wrote in message
news:1115533373.ca48f5705dd75bbd9fed1f1d11feaf05@t eranews...
"BJ Conner" wrote:


It turns out sea lions don't tast any good, and the fur is uninteresting
as
well. The local tribes couldn't in good conscience kill the beasts
because
they knew the carcase would be wasted. We, on the other hand, aren't
burdened
with such scruples...

Chas
remove fly fish to e mail directly


I know a few tribal members on various reservations... and I don't think any
would mistake one for an environmentalist.... I know that you will find the
whole spectrum across the reservation population, but to imply that a native
American is inherently a conservationist by nature is something more in tune
with Saturday morning public service commercials than reality.

Although some great work is being done by one tribe in my area to restore
wildlife (driven mainly by the economic value derived), I know just as many
horror stories (such as shooting Bald Eagles for the fun of it and leaving
them where they drop, etc...) that offsets the good.

The reality of the situation is just much more complex than that....


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Old May 10th, 2005, 02:29 AM
Wolfgang
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"Skwala" wrote in message
...

"chas" wrote in message
news:1115533373.ca48f5705dd75bbd9fed1f1d11feaf05@t eranews...
"BJ Conner" wrote:


It turns out sea lions don't tast any good, and the fur is uninteresting
as
well. The local tribes couldn't in good conscience kill the beasts
because
they knew the carcase would be wasted. We, on the other hand, aren't
burdened
with such scruples...

Chas
remove fly fish to e mail directly


I know a few tribal members on various reservations... and I don't think
any would mistake one for an environmentalist....


Well, which one is that, Sparky? I mean, hell, if one bad apple spoils the
barrel, why don't you just shoot this one and everybody can go their merry
way?

I know that you will find the whole spectrum across the reservation
population, but to imply that a native American is inherently a
conservationist by nature is something more in tune with Saturday morning
public service commercials than reality.

Although some great work is being done by one tribe in my area to restore
wildlife (driven mainly by the economic value derived), I know just as
many horror stories (such as shooting Bald Eagles for the fun of it and
leaving them where they drop, etc...) that offsets the good.


Well.....gosh.....when you put it that way, they sound almost human.

The reality of the situation is just much more complex than that....


True, true.......the pickanninies are just SO ADORABLE!

Wolfgang
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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Old May 11th, 2005, 04:50 AM
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Gee usually the Indian is blamed on the low fish count. Could it be that
you would like to shoot them too?

I'm afraid we only have ourselves to blame for the low fish count, but you
know there is a natural fluctuation too.


"JR" wrote in message ...
Frank Reid wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7708591

Chinook fish counts on the Columbia River are down 1/2 to 2/3rds.


And the big debate in these parts is over shooting sea lions that have
taken to hanging out in the fish ladders at the dams.....

JR



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Old May 11th, 2005, 05:04 AM
JR
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gary wrote:

Gee usually the Indian is blamed on the low fish count. Could it be that
you would like to shoot them too?

I'm afraid we only have ourselves to blame for the low fish count, but you
know there is a natural fluctuation too.

"JR" wrote in message ...
Frank Reid wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7708591

Chinook fish counts on the Columbia River are down 1/2 to 2/3rds.


And the big debate in these parts is over shooting sea lions that have
taken to hanging out in the fish ladders at the dams.....


Who are you asking if they'd like to shoot something?
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Old May 11th, 2005, 02:24 PM
Wolfgang
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"gary" wrote in message
. net...
Gee usually the Indian is blamed on the low fish count...


See, I'd have thought it was the other way around.

Wolfgang
who, apparently, still has a few things to learn about population dynamics
and the rudiments of evolutionary theory........or maybe it's just that
pesky english language again.


 




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