I hate Orvis sometimes

On Sun, 08 May 2005 13:30:51 -0700, rw
wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:
On Sat, 7 May 2005 19:50:31 -0500, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


The guy I
talked to told me it was the final nail in the decision to close up shop.


If the store "sat in a fairly high traffic affluent area" and was barely making
it then I'd say Orvis isn't their problem, it's their 'loyal' customers.

That's a good point. While it sucks to lose a familiar, friendly shop,
blaming Orvis is probably not completely fair. Instead, blame the
'loyal' customers who shop online at a discount.

My impression of Orvis stores in affluent urban settings, and especially
in places like Indianapolis that aren't known for their flyfishing
attractions, is that the fishing tackle and flies and fly tying
materials don't pay the rent. I wouldn't be surprised if they take
losses on actual fishing stuff, and make up for it with high priced
clothing and other upscale yuppie goods. They need to carry the fishing
stuff for symbolic branding reasons.

Sadly, Royal River's business model just doesn't cut it anymore.

Don't look now, but the only thing keeping brick'n'mortar retail alive in the
face of internet commerce is the need for instant gratification.

Get past that and you can pretty much kiss those folks goodbye...

/daytripper

daytripper wrote:

Don't look now, but the only thing keeping brick'n'mortar retail alive in the
face of internet commerce is the need for instant gratification.

Get past that and you can pretty much kiss those folks goodbye...

There's also the thing about actually seeing what you're buying......

I'll buy beads, hooks, thread, synthetics, etc. on line, but not fur or
feathers. I've had to send too much stuff back, including stuff from
"premium" brand names like Whiting and from big established nationally
known fly shops.....

Given the appallingly wide range in the quality of cork on the grips of
even top-of-the-line rod makers these days, I'd also never buy a rod
before seeing it.

JR

JR wrote in :


I'll buy beads, hooks, thread, synthetics, etc. on line, but not fur or
feathers.

If everyone thought that way, you wouldn't have brick and mortar stores to
wade through your fur and feathers

scott

Scott Seidman wrote:
JR wrote:

I'll buy beads, hooks, thread, synthetics, etc. on line, but not fur or
feathers.

If everyone thought that way, you wouldn't have brick and mortar stores to
wade through your fur and feathers

That would be true had I said "I buy". I said I will (i.e., would), not
that I always do. In practice, if the local shops happen to have the
size/model hook (or the color of thread, Krystal Flash, chenille) I'm
looking for, I'll buy it there. I often call around the local shops
(there are five in my town, six more within a 50 mile radius) to find what
I'm looking for -- if no one has it, I'll call Kaufmann's in Portland.

I've tried several times to have the two shops I most want to support
order stuff for me: with boots, waders, rods, etc., it works out fine,
but little odds and ends for tying seem to fall through the cracks in
their procurement process....

JR

"daytripper" wrote in message
news

Don't look now, but the only thing keeping brick'n'mortar retail alive in
the
face of internet commerce is the need for instant gratification.

Well, that and the fact that a lot of brick and mortar stores *do* internet
commerce. Look at Walt, for instance.