A standard 6 weight line?

Looking for a good multi-purpose 6 weight line. Will be used big dries and
nymphs. Have a Cortland 555 weight forward on my 5 weight, which does very
well, but wondering if anyone has lines that would suggest over a 555.

Also, I haven't used the ghost tip version of the 555, plus/minuses?

On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:55:54 -0400, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:

Looking for a good multi-purpose 6 weight line. Will be used big dries and
nymphs. Have a Cortland 555 weight forward on my 5 weight, which does very
well, but wondering if anyone has lines that would suggest over a 555.

Also, I haven't used the ghost tip version of the 555, plus/minuses?


In that case, keep the front taper fairly short. I've always liked
the SA Ultra4 and the previous Ultra3 lines. I'd also think about a
bassbug taper -- makes for a great nymphing line and won't have any
trouble with big dries.

Peter

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On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:55:54 -0400, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:

Looking for a good multi-purpose 6 weight line. Will be used big dries
and
nymphs. Have a Cortland 555 weight forward on my 5 weight, which does
very
well, but wondering if anyone has lines that would suggest over a 555.

Also, I haven't used the ghost tip version of the 555, plus/minuses?


In that case, keep the front taper fairly short. I've always liked
the SA Ultra4 and the previous Ultra3 lines. I'd also think about a
bassbug taper -- makes for a great nymphing line and won't have any
trouble with big dries.

Peter

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Hey Peter!!

So what's the logic of keep the the taper short? I really draw a blank with
it (which is why I asked), so just curious.

Is that a good taper for streamers also?

On Sun, 15 May 2005 23:17:35 -0400, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:


"Peter Charles" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:55:54 -0400, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:

Looking for a good multi-purpose 6 weight line. Will be used big dries
and
nymphs. Have a Cortland 555 weight forward on my 5 weight, which does
very
well, but wondering if anyone has lines that would suggest over a 555.

Also, I haven't used the ghost tip version of the 555, plus/minuses?


In that case, keep the front taper fairly short. I've always liked
the SA Ultra4 and the previous Ultra3 lines. I'd also think about a
bassbug taper -- makes for a great nymphing line and won't have any
trouble with big dries.

Peter

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Hey Peter!!

So what's the logic of keep the the taper short? I really draw a blank with
it (which is why I asked), so just curious.

Is that a good taper for streamers also?


Short tapers have more powerful turnover so you can toss more stuff on
the end. Longer front tapers produce a more delicate presentation.
Short tapers also have the advantage of being better at close range
casting as the front end of a short tapered line is heavier than a
long one, though at 30' they'll both weigh the same. When it comes to
mending, both have advantages, the principle one for the short taper
is that it will mend with sufficent force to easily pickup and move a
strike indicator (lift mend). Since the tip is thicker, as we move
back along the taper, they tend to float a bit better as well, being
less prone to being dragged under by weight.

Peter

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BTW, I'm bringing a prototype trout two-hander with me. It's a 12'6"
4/5/6 wt. I'll be using it to swing streamers across some of the
wider stretches of water on Penns. Good way to cover water from bank
to bank. I have a trout Airflo Delta on it that I've cut and looped
at the 10' mark so that I can switch off between the floater tip or
10' Polyleaders of various sink rates -- turning it into a multi-tip
system. The Airflo is essentially a shooting head with its own
running line attached so it can hit some decent distance with very
little backcast room required.

It'll also do a great job of swinging wets and drifting nymphs, thanks
to the length. High-sticking is a breeze thanks to the length plus
the bottom handle rests against the bottom of the forearm,
significantly reducing fatigue. I used this rod last summer to
provide the designer with input and even used it for dries. Found it
did a great job of protecting 7X tippet.

First victim. The photo isn't good as there was water on the lens but
it does give some idea of the rod.

http://home.mountaincable.net/~pchar...wn-trouter.jpg

It was caught on a brown trout weamer on the end of the Airfl Delta +
Polyleader at Cedar Run on the Grand -- a tough place to get fish of
this size.

Peter

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"Peter Charles" wrote in message
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BTW, I'm bringing a prototype trout two-hander with me. It's a 12'6"
4/5/6 wt. I'll be using it to swing streamers across some of the
wider stretches of water on Penns. Good way to cover water from bank
to bank. I have a trout Airflo Delta on it that I've cut and looped
at the 10' mark so that I can switch off between the floater tip or
10' Polyleaders of various sink rates -- turning it into a multi-tip
system. The Airflo is essentially a shooting head with its own
running line attached so it can hit some decent distance with very
little backcast room required.

It'll also do a great job of swinging wets and drifting nymphs, thanks
to the length. High-sticking is a breeze thanks to the length plus
the bottom handle rests against the bottom of the forearm,
significantly reducing fatigue. I used this rod last summer to
provide the designer with input and even used it for dries. Found it
did a great job of protecting 7X tippet.

First victim. The photo isn't good as there was water on the lens but
it does give some idea of the rod.

http://home.mountaincable.net/~pchar...wn-trouter.jpg

It was caught on a brown trout weamer on the end of the Airfl Delta +
Polyleader at Cedar Run on the Grand -- a tough place to get fish of
this size.

Peter

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Sounds very intriguing. I'll have to spectate..When are you arriving?

Peter Charles wrote:

http://home.mountaincable.net/~pchar...wn-trouter.jpg

Is that an R.B. Meiser rod? (the grip looks kinda like his...)

On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:00:24 -0700, JR wrote:

Peter Charles wrote:

http://home.mountaincable.net/~pchar...wn-trouter.jpg

Is that an R.B. Meiser rod? (the grip looks kinda like his...)


Yes it is.

Peter

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 22:46:35 -0400, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:


"Peter Charles" wrote in message
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BTW, I'm bringing a prototype trout two-hander with me. It's a 12'6"
4/5/6 wt. I'll be using it to swing streamers across some of the
wider stretches of water on Penns. Good way to cover water from bank
to bank. I have a trout Airflo Delta on it that I've cut and looped
at the 10' mark so that I can switch off between the floater tip or
10' Polyleaders of various sink rates -- turning it into a multi-tip
system. The Airflo is essentially a shooting head with its own
running line attached so it can hit some decent distance with very
little backcast room required.

It'll also do a great job of swinging wets and drifting nymphs, thanks
to the length. High-sticking is a breeze thanks to the length plus
the bottom handle rests against the bottom of the forearm,
significantly reducing fatigue. I used this rod last summer to
provide the designer with input and even used it for dries. Found it
did a great job of protecting 7X tippet.

First victim. The photo isn't good as there was water on the lens but
it does give some idea of the rod.

http://home.mountaincable.net/~pchar...wn-trouter.jpg

It was caught on a brown trout weamer on the end of the Airfl Delta +
Polyleader at Cedar Run on the Grand -- a tough place to get fish of
this size.

Peter

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Sounds very intriguing. I'll have to spectate..When are you arriving?


I'll be there Sunday.

Peter

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Try the new Rio Nymph taper.

The Rio Steelhead/Salmon is popular for indicator nymphing here in Nor Cal.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
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Looking for a good multi-purpose 6 weight line. Will be used big dries
and nymphs. Have a Cortland 555 weight forward on my 5 weight, which does
very well, but wondering if anyone has lines that would suggest over a
555.

Also, I haven't used the ghost tip version of the 555, plus/minuses?