First the Coho, now Apache and Gila

Tim J. wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
I cannot for the life of me ever figure out why so
many folks who claim to be concerned with protecting
our outdoor heritage can vote Republican.

snip
I truly believe that most people, regardless of voting history, are
dissatisfied with the idiot we have and his thug buddies. But that
dissatisfaction is proven to not be enough to lead to change. We
need leaders we can actively support, not just ones that 'aren't as
bad as the other guy.'

Dream on. The American electorate, like any other, gets the
leaders it deserves. The average American voter is dumber than
a box of rocks and wouldn't know a good leader if one bit him
on the tit. Yeah, voting for the lesser of two evils is still
voting for evil but for the sake of your great-grandchildren
and theirs, you'd better hold your nose and vote these thugs
out before it's too late.

I think your statement speaks to Larry's argument. You say "vote these
thugs out" without Dems offering a good alternative to "vote IN".

If protecting the environment isn't a good enough reason for
an outdoorsman to "vote IN" then I am puzzled.

The
last election proved ABB is a bad plan for winning elections.

The last election proved my assertion that the average American
voter is dumber than a box of rocks. I don't know how to convince
the "dumber than a box of rocks" portion of the American electorate
to vote for their own self-interest, maybe you can shed some light
on that. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tim J. wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
I cannot for the life of me ever figure out why so
many folks who claim to be concerned with protecting
our outdoor heritage can vote Republican.

snip
I truly believe that most people, regardless of voting history, are
dissatisfied with the idiot we have and his thug buddies. But
that dissatisfaction is proven to not be enough to lead to change.
We need leaders we can actively support, not just ones that
'aren't as bad as the other guy.'

Dream on. The American electorate, like any other, gets the
leaders it deserves. The average American voter is dumber than
a box of rocks and wouldn't know a good leader if one bit him
on the tit. Yeah, voting for the lesser of two evils is still
voting for evil but for the sake of your great-grandchildren
and theirs, you'd better hold your nose and vote these thugs
out before it's too late.

I think your statement speaks to Larry's argument. You say "vote
these thugs out" without Dems offering a good alternative to "vote
IN".

If protecting the environment isn't a good enough reason for
an outdoorsman to "vote IN" then I am puzzled.

The
last election proved ABB is a bad plan for winning elections.

The last election proved my assertion that the average American
voter is dumber than a box of rocks. I don't know how to convince
the "dumber than a box of rocks" portion of the American electorate
to vote for their own self-interest, maybe you can shed some light
on that. ;-)

I don't understand. G
--
TL,
Tim
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:06:37 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

(snipped)

If protecting the environment isn't a good enough reason for
an outdoorsman to "vote IN" then I am puzzled.

I might have voted for Kerry. If I'd thought he meant anything he
said about the environment. It was close. I didn't think he was as
dumb as Bush (the trees are stealing our water) about it, but neither
did I have any reason to believe he had a clue or an urge about
protecting natural resources. And the one statement of his that I saw
/ heard on TV about the gun issue convinced me that he was pretty
clueless in general.

He just wasn't good enough to vote for. Had he won, I'd not have
wanted to be any part of the responsibility for his being president.
Despising Bush and the neo-cons just wasn't quite enough of a kicker.

I voted Libertarian. Or Grassroots. I've forgotten which (not due to
smoking anything interesting, either). They're my usual choices when
the major parties don't make me tingle. At least they come somewhat
close to showing my feelings about political platforms.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Cyli wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:06:37 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

(snipped)

If protecting the environment isn't a good enough reason for
an outdoorsman to "vote IN" then I am puzzled.


I might have voted for Kerry. If I'd thought he meant anything he
said about the environment.

I guess sponsoring the Sustained Fisheries Act doesn't cut much ice with
you.

There's saying and then there's doing.

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