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Old June 21st, 2005, 01:14 PM
Wayne Harrison
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"Willi" wrote

Where did "tar heel" come from. (I know I could Google it, but I figure
might as well ask one.)


afaik, there are two explanations, both anecdotal. the most popular
attributes various observations by any number of generals, up to and
including lee himself, that the north carolinians stood so steady under fire
that they must have tar on their heels. then, there is the tale from the
revolutionary war that british soldiers complained of picking up tar on
their feet every time they crossed the piney woods rivers in the eastern
part of the state.
both these legends have a common origin, which is the most likely
authentic source of the nickname: the early economy of the state depended
on the production of resin, turpentine, and tar from the plentiful pine
forests in the eastern part of the state. those who worked in such an
industry would constantly be covered from head to toe in the gooey
substances. these folks were usually poor country boys. during the civil
war, the patrician virginians would refer to north carolinians, derisively,
as "tar heels".

just another service provided by little wayno's trout shop and trivia
center. as you know, our motto is, "we never close".

yfitons
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Old June 21st, 2005, 01:17 PM
Charlie Choc
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:14:55 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Willi" wrote

Where did "tar heel" come from. (I know I could Google it, but I figure
might as well ask one.)


afaik, there are two explanations, both anecdotal. the most popular
attributes various observations by any number of generals, up to and
including lee himself, that the north carolinians stood so steady under fire
that they must have tar on their heels. then, there is the tale from the
revolutionary war that british soldiers complained of picking up tar on
their feet every time they crossed the piney woods rivers in the eastern
part of the state.
both these legends have a common origin, which is the most likely
authentic source of the nickname: the early economy of the state depended
on the production of resin, turpentine, and tar from the plentiful pine
forests in the eastern part of the state. those who worked in such an
industry would constantly be covered from head to toe in the gooey
substances. these folks were usually poor country boys. during the civil
war, the patrician virginians would refer to north carolinians, derisively,
as "tar heels".

just another service provided by little wayno's trout shop and trivia
center. as you know, our motto is, "we never close".

And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g
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Old June 21st, 2005, 01:24 PM
Wayne Harrison
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"Charlie Choc" wrote


And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old
tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g


pretty damned funny, coming from a "jayhawk"...

yfitons
wayno (now where the hell did they get *that* from?)


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Old June 21st, 2005, 02:12 PM
Charlie Choc
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:13 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote


And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old
tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g


pretty damned funny, coming from a "jayhawk"...

yfitons
wayno (now where the hell did they get *that* from?)

Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g
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Old June 21st, 2005, 02:16 PM
William Claspy
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On 6/21/05 9:12 AM, in article ,
"Charlie Choc" wrote:

I'm not sure what they even call
people
from Illinois


Unfortunate?

:-)

B

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Old June 21st, 2005, 02:18 PM
Charlie Choc
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:08 -0400, William Claspy wrote:

On 6/21/05 9:12 AM, in article ,
"Charlie Choc" wrote:

I'm not sure what they even call
people
from Illinois


Unfortunate?

:-)

That's for people *in* Illinois. g
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Old June 21st, 2005, 10:43 PM
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Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g


Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.

Willi



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Old June 21st, 2005, 10:45 PM
Charlie Choc
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:43:34 -0600, Willi wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g


Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.

And the bakeries.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Willi
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Charlie Choc wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:43:34 -0600, Willi wrote:


Charlie Choc wrote:


Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g


Now you're talkin' my language. Chitown "culture". I'm part "Bohunk"
part "Kraut."

One of the few things I miss about Chicago is the excellent food you can
get in little hole in the wall restaurants in the various ethnic
neighborhoods.


And the bakeries.



Agreed. Last time "home" I had a Hoska. MMMMMM

Willi


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Old June 22nd, 2005, 12:20 PM
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:12:21 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:13 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote


And here all this time I thought it referred to all the mounds of old
tires
around the state, pronounced locally as "tar heels". g


pretty damned funny, coming from a "jayhawk"...

yfitons
wayno (now where the hell did they get *that* from?)

Beats me, but I was born in Cicero, Ill. I'm not sure what they even call people
from Illinois, but people from my neighborhood there were called bohunks, and
not always in a nice way. g



I know there were ex-servicemen turned outlaw after the Civil War who
where called Jayhawks. Now I have to go to Google. I'll be right
back...............

Aha. Outlaws were called that _pre_ Civil War. During the war a
group from the state went to service under that nickname. It is
believed that they got the original name by confabulating two birds,
the jay (notorious camp robber bird) and the hawk, which swoops
suddenly on prey. That's from only one Google reference. Just read
enough to satisfy my own curiosity. If you want more, Google's there
for you.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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