my first fly

JR wrote:

Ciao, Vittorix

ciao!
I like you used Ciao

$600 US is a lot to pay for a first fly rod. There
are some good rods that are not too expensive, but without knowing
the brand and model you're thinking about, it's hard to give advice.

I've a Orvis shop down my house that sells a Orvis rod on sale for 69$
(original 89$)
think could be positive to start?

http://www.pipam.com/pipam/MERCATINO/#Vendo

thanks but I live in Chicago downtown, Italy is too far away from me now
:-(
(how much I miss the sea ....)

Buona fortuna......

grazie altrettanto a te!
how do you know so much Italian?

--
ciao
Vittorix

JR wrote:

... (If it's
primarily for trout fishing there in Italy, look for a medium-fast action
rod, 8.5 or 9 foot, 4 or 5 weight.)

Poor Vittorix is in Chicago. From what I can tell by his posts
here and in some of the other fishing groups he hasn't really
decided, or doesn't have enough info yet to decide, which
species he wants to target. Chicago could mean anything from
bluegill to salmon and most everything in between.

If I were to give him fly fishing advice, I'd say MOVE. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
JR wrote:

... (If it's
primarily for trout fishing there in Italy, look for a medium-fast
action
rod, 8.5 or 9 foot, 4 or 5 weight.)

Poor Vittorix is in Chicago. From what I can tell by his posts
here and in some of the other fishing groups he hasn't really
decided, or doesn't have enough info yet to decide, which
species he wants to target. Chicago could mean anything from
bluegill to salmon and most everything in between.

If I were to give him fly fishing advice, I'd say MOVE. ;-)


Ken,

Aren't you in that region these days? Why not offer to give our poor friend
some lessons on the water?


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

Vittorix wrote:

thanks but I live in Chicago downtown, Italy is too far away from me now
:-(

Whoops. It was the libero.it email address that derailed me....

(how much I miss the sea ....)

Where are you from?

grazie altrettanto a te!
how do you know so much Italian?

I lived in Rome for a couple of years. "So much", though, grossly
exaggerates my competence.

About the set-up, since you're in the U.S., perhaps you could go to
http://www.ezflyfish.com/index.html and look at the 4-piece Sage Launch
rods (very decent rods for the price, good beginner's rods). The
proprietor of the site is a ROFF old-timer and highly reputable.

BTW, that's an interesting fly you designed there. Appears better suited
for sal****er maybe than for the Mid-West. Sort of a psychedelic shrimp
pattern. :-) As Wolfgang said, you'll only know its effectiveness,
though, by testing it. What size hook did you tie it on?

JR

Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Poor Vittorix is in Chicago.
snip
If I were to give him fly fishing advice, I'd say MOVE. ;-)

Ken,

Aren't you in that region these days? ...

I'm 150 miles south of Chicago in Urbana.

--
Ken Fortenberry

JR wrote:

thanks but I live in Chicago downtown, Italy is too far away from me
now :-(
Whoops. It was the libero.it email address that derailed me....

it's my historical about 6yo mail I still use

(how much I miss the sea ....)
Where are you from?

Palermo, Sicily. I grow on the wonderful Mondello beach..

About the set-up, since you're in the U.S., perhaps you could go to
http://www.ezflyfish.com/index.html and look at the 4-piece Sage
Launch rods (very decent rods for the price, good beginner's rods)

195$ too much for me for now :\

The proprietor of the site is a ROFF old-timer and highly reputable.

which is his nickname?

BTW, that's an interesting fly you designed there. Appears better
suited for sal****er maybe than for the Mid-West. Sort of a
psychedelic shrimp pattern. :-)

good to try where there are river shrimps too, not?
what colors/contrasts would you suggest for Vermillion river (Illinois)?
or generical Mid-West rivers and lakes.

As Wolfgang said, you'll only know
its effectiveness, though, by testing it. What size hook did you tie
it on?

it's a light black 1/0 aberdeen.
it is straight (not off set hook)

--
ciao
Vittorix

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

If I were to give him fly fishing advice, I'd say MOVE. ;-)

I know Illinois it's not the best for the nature, but I have a car and I
can MOVE about 100miles around Chicago

--
ciao
Vittorix

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Aren't you in that region these days? ...

I'm 150 miles south of Chicago in Urbana.

and tomorrow I leave 3 days for Las Vegas
if you come closer, let me know

--
ciao
Vittorix

"Vittorix" wrote in message
...
...I would know how a dead big fly would sink and I think it's a huge
argument about sinking flies (instead of floating ones), am I right?

The word "fly" is misleading. Fishing flies are designed to represent all
manner of creatures, everything from "true" flies in the taxonomic sense
(the diptera) through the big three of trout stream aquatic insects, the
mayflies (ephemeroptera), the caddis flies (tricoptera) and stoneflies
(plecoptera) in all the stages of their life cycles, and on to bait fish
(including immatures of many a game species), crayfish, shrimp, crabs,
worms.....even mice and baby ducks. There are indeed arguments about what
flies work best in which situations, and even some about whether or not one
should use various styles and whether or not some are rightly judged as
flies at all. You can safely ignore ALL of those arguments. Advice is
usually worth listening to.....and you can get tons of it here for
free.....but you get to decide for yourself what you want to use.

fly fishing it's the only fishing I didn't tried and I think I'll
appasionate very badly, I'm ordering a float tube (Creek ODC 420) and when
I'll have enough money I'll buy a fly rod.
they're so expensive! 600$! I saw a 69$ fly rod and tried to find
differences with the good one and it's too soft, do you think I should
start from that or I have to wait when I can afford a good one?

A $69 rod is not necessarily going to be soft, nor a $600 rod fast. In
short, price is not at all a good indicator of a rod's action. The
conventional wisdom is that more money will buy greater quality, regardless
of desired characteristics. Generally, this tends toward truth, but the
exceptions are so numerous as to make the observation nearly worthless.
There are many rods in the low to mid range that are every bit as good as
many very expensive ones in terms of performance and often enough even in
cosmetics, durability, and whatever other traits might interest you.

This topic comes up here frequently. You'll get no end of opposed opinions
on which rods (and other pieces of equipment) are superior and why.
Unfortunately, there is simply no substitute for trying various combinations
to see what you like. Obviously, trying many is simply out of the question
for a beginner on his own. Your best bet is to get together with
experienced fly fishers and try as many rigs as possible before making up
your mind about what to buy. Barring this, it only makes sense to start out
relatively cheap (you may decide you hate fly fishing regardless of your
equipments' performance) and then work your way up as you gain experience of
your own and input from others you meet along the way.....unless you have
more money than you know how to deal with sensibly.

Once again, good luck.

Wolfgang

"Vittorix" wrote in :

I would know how a dead big fly would sink and I think it's a huge
argument about sinking flies (instead of floating ones), am I right?


Only if you don't like catching fish!

--
Scott
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