how can i catch carp?

"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Richard
wrote:

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
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In message , Richard
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and so on, but carp angling seems to be particularly afflicted.

Well that is obviously a view .......... a bit narrow minded but _a_ view
anyway.

In general: The tackle trade make their money from the anglers who don't
catch many...


Not seen any decent data to confirm that _view_.

The (completely unfounded but I'd be astonished if it were not true, it
might even be an understatement) statistic that needs to restated
regularly:
90% of the fish are caught by 10% of the anglers and that 10% buy less
than 5% of the tackle.

Completely unfounded indeed.


I wonder sometimes whether the intention is to impress the fish or the
angler's peers.


If either I guess the latter.

Ime, there is little argument that in certain circumstances the bolt rig,
the hair, boiled baits and bite alarms can be very effective _but_ again
I

Of course. They were desiged by skillful, resourceful anglers to address
specific problems. Where those problems apply they *are* very effective.

Agreement at last

Most anglers might encounter such conditions once or twice a year at most.

oops ..... that was short lived

In general, when that happens it's more productive to move elsewhere, fish
for something else, or fish at another time.

The idea that apart from once or twice a year it would be better to move,
fish for something else or not at all does not reflect my experience ......
by a very long chalk.


Just live and let live

That's sound advice.


Two agreements in one post ............ we should stick and not twist.

Richard

In article , Richard
wrote:

"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In general: The tackle trade make their money from the anglers who don't
catch many...

Not seen any decent data to confirm that _view_.

And I've seen none to disprove it.

The (completely unfounded but I'd be astonished if it were not true, it
might even be an understatement) statistic that needs to restated
regularly:
90% of the fish are caught by 10% of the anglers and that 10% buy less
than 5% of the tackle.

Completely unfounded indeed.

I was tempted to go for 95% and 5% buying 2%. I reckon it's probably closer.

Ime, there is little argument that in certain circumstances the bolt rig,
the hair, boiled baits and bite alarms can be very effective _but_ again
I

Of course. They were desiged by skillful, resourceful anglers to address
specific problems. Where those problems apply they *are* very effective.

Agreement at last

Most anglers might encounter such conditions once or twice a year at most.

oops ..... that was short lived

In general, when that happens it's more productive to move elsewhere, fish
for something else, or fish at another time.

The idea that apart from once or twice a year it would be better to move,
fish for something else or not at all does not reflect my experience ......
by a very long chalk.

You must be going back to the same, awkward venue every time. If at all
possible try somewhere else.

Just live and let live

That's sound advice.


Two agreements in one post ............ we should stick and not twist.

Not if we're fishing we shouldn't.

When fishing with friends we follow a system. On seeing the water we agree
what tactics we each will use - we all do something different. That way we
find the best method for the day two or three times faster - and all change
to the more productive method(s).

Cheerio,

--

"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Richard
wrote:

"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In general: The tackle trade make their money from the anglers who
don't
catch many...

Not seen any decent data to confirm that _view_.

And I've seen none to disprove it.

But if anybody choses to just say the complete opposite ........ or any
variable between ..... the same is true ....... so Imo it isn't worth the
cyberspace it occupies.


The (completely unfounded but I'd be astonished if it were not true, it
might even be an understatement) statistic that needs to restated
regularly:
90% of the fish are caught by 10% of the anglers and that 10% buy less
than 5% of the tackle.

Completely unfounded indeed.

I was tempted to go for 95% and 5% buying 2%. I reckon it's probably
closer.


Well there you sre then you have said it

Ime, there is little argument that in certain circumstances the bolt
rig,
the hair, boiled baits and bite alarms can be very effective _but_
again
I

Of course. They were desiged by skillful, resourceful anglers to
address
specific problems. Where those problems apply they *are* very
effective.

Agreement at last

Most anglers might encounter such conditions once or twice a year at
most.

oops ..... that was short lived

In general, when that happens it's more productive to move elsewhere,
fish
for something else, or fish at another time.

The idea that apart from once or twice a year it would be better to move,
fish for something else or not at all does not reflect my experience
......
by a very long chalk.

You must be going back to the same, awkward venue every time. If at all
possible try somewhere else.

I do vary venue and true some are more awkward than others _but_ when I feel
'up for the challenge' a tough venue does have its attractions, and the
reward(s) can be good/satisfying.


Just live and let live

That's sound advice.


Two agreements in one post ............ we should stick and not twist.

Not if we're fishing we shouldn't.

When fishing with friends we follow a system. On seeing the water we
agree
what tactics we each will use - we all do something different. That way
we
find the best method for the day two or three times faster - and all
change
to the more productive method(s).


Golly ............ I feel an essay coming on ....... so I'll leave you to
get on with those ideas.

Richard

"Richard" wrote in message
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yawwwnnn....

Take it to email or get a room together guys....

Originally Posted by Biffa @ Work

yawwwnnn....

Take it to email or get a room together guys....

Whats you're problem?

Just in case you didn't realise this is a fishing forum, so people talk about fishing,
WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!

"fishin' kid" wrote in message
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Biffa @ Work Wrote:
yawwwnnn....
Take it to email or get a room together guys....
Whats you're problem?
Just in case you didn't realise this is a fishing forum, so people talk
about fishing,
WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!

Nowt, talking about fishing is fine....
But those guys going off on a "yes but , no but, yes but, no but" tangent
was getting a tad tedious and would be better off being taken off group, and
leaving the group for discussion of our beloved pastime.

--
Cheerz - Brownz
http://fishing.brownz.org/

"fishin' kid" wrote in message
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Biffa @ Work Wrote:

yawwwnnn....

Take it to email or get a room together guys....


Whats you're problem?

Just in case you didn't realise this is a fishing forum, so people talk
about fishing,
WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!


--
fishin' kid

He probably prefers threads like ''Albatross eating mice''.

Of course if a person doesn't want to follow a particular thread that is
easy to do.

Richard