Penn's/Hemlock Bear

You may be right Wolfie.......There are alot of bears in the area of
Hemlock Acres.....99.9 percent of the time the bears will move on
away.........I have fished Three Streamer Stans with bears in the area
i have seen scat at Ingleby.......I have seen Rattle Snakes at Big
Fishing Creek.....Yes Rudy could proberly do a little more to deter the
bears from hanging around the campgrounds but so do people camping.....
When we were there in June Rudy was picking up the garbage on a daily
bases... He did have warnings at the store and on the bulletin board of
bears in the area he did personal tell me of the bears and has a sign
to stopp and see him upon arrival..... Any idea what else he could
do......i know of at least 3 bears that hang out over at Stans which is
over the hill from Hemlock......There are several down at The Cherry
Run Cabin area.......Wild life is a part of the mystic we call
flyfishing I myself enjoy it as much as fishing itself.........I grew
up with wild life in the woods of Maine our nearest neighbor was 3/4 of
a mile away the bus stop was 1 1/4 mile from home my brother and i
carried loaded rifles to and from the bus stop yes we walked....... The
property is now a sportsmens club........Most of my encounters have
been in the east some in Ga, SC, Texas,& Ca.....We all know as
sportsmen that food stuffs are to be kept cleaned up and stored
properly Frank admits he did not do that but knew to do that I don't
think the bear was interested in chowing on you or Frank but barley
stew but ya gotta admit looking for a place to sleep wearing only your
BVD's was funny......Most human/animal encounters are caused by human
error ie right place wrong time food stuffs just lieing around the list
goes on and on......As the country gets more developed the less
habitate animals have thus more encounters and we all know the animal
get the short end of the stick........Here in Ct we have had around 75
bear sightings this year alone..........Enough of my ramblings just
wanted to put my $.02 in........................


Standin In A River Wavibg A Stick

Mike

I would second what my Handy Pal says. Black bears come with the territory
in the East. More so every year, which is a good sign for the natural
environment being improved. To my knowledge, there haven't been any maulings
in PA or any other Eastern local by black bears in a long time. To
characterize Hemlock Acres as some sort of tragedy waiting to happen is
unfair to Rudy. He has learned, and quickly, and has done what has to be
done. If campers want to be stupid or careless, that is on them. The only
potential issue, as I see it, is someone letting a kid approach a
bear.....especially a mother with cub(s).
tom

To my knowledge, there haven't been any maulings
in PA or any other Eastern local by black bears in a long time.

Better than that, Tom. The PA Game Commission says there is no record
of a black bear *ever* attacking a human in PA.

Twenty or so years ago, according to that unimpeachable source, the
CDT, a resident of Pleasant Gap (near State College) saw a mother bear
and her cub in his garden. The dummy rushed out and tried to chase
both bears away. Mama cuffed him a good one, and both bears left.

Dummy suffered only minor scratches.

That was a case of a man attacking a bear, not a bear attacking a man.

vince





To
characterize Hemlock Acres as some sort of tragedy waiting to happen is
unfair to Rudy. He has learned, and quickly, and has done what has to be
done. If campers want to be stupid or careless, that is on them. The only
potential issue, as I see it, is someone letting a kid approach a
bear.....especially a mother with cub(s).
tom

"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
...

...Dummy suffered only minor scratches.

That was a case of a man attacking a bear, not a bear attacking a man.

Serves him right for leading with his chin.

Wolfgang
and they call ME a harsh critic!

That was a case of a man attacking a bear, not a bear attacking a man.

Serves him right for leading with his chin.

Wolfgang

Absolutely! Even if he had been badly mauled, he asked for it!

vince

"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
...
That was a case of a man attacking a bear, not a bear attacking a man.

Serves him right for leading with his chin.

Wolfgang

Absolutely! Even if he had been badly mauled, he asked for it!

vince

Maybe so. But it seems to me that life is replete with examples of folks
who "asked for it" without engendering contempt for them or approval of
those who delivered it.

Wolfgang
or maybe i got lost somewhere and this isn't roff.

vincent p. norris wrote:
To my knowledge, there haven't been any maulings
in PA or any other Eastern local by black bears in a long time.

Better than that, Tom. The PA Game Commission says there is no record
of a black bear *ever* attacking a human in PA.

SNIP


vince


http://ap.lancasteronline.com/4/pa_bear_attack

Three young adults were camping in a "no camping" area of Hickory Run
State Park and had an "encounter" with a bear. The injuries weren't
life-threatening, but the campers did stupid tings. The park assistant
manager calls the incident and "encounter" rather than an "atttack."

Steve

On 14 Aug 2005 06:49:02 -0700, "Steve" wrote:
..... The PA Game Commission says there is no record
of a black bear *ever* attacking a human in PA.

Three young adults were camping in a "no camping" area of Hickory Run
State Park and had an "encounter" with a bear. The injuries weren't
life-threatening, but the campers did stupid tings. The park assistant
manager calls the incident and "encounter" rather than an "atttack."

Steve

I'd call that a pretty serious "encounter." Even if the campers "did
stupid things," perhaps the Game Commission should revise its
statement.

Perhaps "there is no record of a black bear ever attacking a human in
PA, except when they sorta provoke it."

vince

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:58:41 -0400, vincent p. norris
wrote:

On 14 Aug 2005 06:49:02 -0700, "Steve" wrote:
..... The PA Game Commission says there is no record
of a black bear *ever* attacking a human in PA.

Three young adults were camping in a "no camping" area of Hickory Run
State Park and had an "encounter" with a bear. The injuries weren't
life-threatening, but the campers did stupid tings. The park assistant
manager calls the incident and "encounter" rather than an "atttack."

Steve

I'd call that a pretty serious "encounter." Even if the campers "did
stupid things," perhaps the Game Commission should revise its
statement.

Perhaps "there is no record of a black bear ever attacking a human in
PA, except when they sorta provoke it."

vince


I read the stories and followups when the news was fresh. I think the
bear may have been acting in self defense (or food defense, once he'd
found it), though it's hard to tell what happened, as almost
everything the kids said, except the one who was up in the car and had
no clue anything was going on, sounded like a doper's story made up to
cover the very few injuries that the girl had. Evidence was that the
bear had whacked her or bitten her once. The rest of her very minor
injuries could have been from floundering around in the brush.

Cyli
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vincent p. norris wrote:
"Steve" wrote:
Three young adults were camping in a "no camping" area of Hickory Run
State Park and had an "encounter" with a bear. The injuries weren't
life-threatening, but the campers did stupid tings. The park assistant
manager calls the incident and "encounter" rather than an "atttack."

I'd call that a pretty serious "encounter." Even if the campers "did
stupid things," perhaps the Game Commission should revise its
statement.

No, I don't think so. If a bear "attacks" a human it must
be destroyed. The PA Game Commission is correct.

If anybody needs to be put down it's those three drunken
dimbulbs not the bear.

--
Ken Fortenberry