Automatic Reels

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:44:17 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
...Verelli or Vivarelli (or RolleXXX), I'll
still pass on (semi) automatic reels...but, I suppose, I have two good
arms, so I'll modify my previous "no (semi)automatic reels" to "unless
you only have one arm..."

Easy enough to find out. Hold up all the arms you have. Count them.

Wolfgang
who realizes, of course, that if he's got more than five he's
screwed......but we'll deal with that when and if necessary.

Well, only two ar...well, wait...hang on...yep, two arms...

....but the gals call me tripod...

And the Lord did spaketh upon them: "Go forth, my children - be
fruitful, and get down tonight." And the celestial horn section brought
forth a mighty groovy blast.

Hmmm...I guess He liketh a wee touch of KC and the Sunshine Band in his
deitying duties...

Bob La Londe wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message

No. I have three flyrods. A 4wt a 5wt and a 6/7wt.

As to the heavier line... LMs tend to like heavy brush. When torunament
fishign for bass I have most of my rods spooled up with 20-30 lb braid, and
my flipping rigs are spooled with 50. I only have a few rods spooled with
plastic line (Flourocarbon) for ultra clear water cirumctances. Then the
lightest I use is ten pound.

I guess the waters you fish will tell you what you can get by with.
Around here, I fish rivers or lakes that are impounded limestone
rivers. There's not a lot of heavy brush, so the fish tend to be around
whatever structure they can find, which is mostly boulders, rock ledges,
etc.

I lose a few fish when doing the ultralight thing, but figure I get
more strikes in the first place. (It's pretty clear water.) I can't
recall the last time I lost a fish on a flyrod, mostly because a 2X or
3X tippet is plenty strong to move a fish away from a rock ledge when
needed.

Thanks. I am quite sure an expereinced angler may be able to downsize and
catch bass or other bigger fish just fine. I have landed 12lb stripers on
6lb test on spinning tackle. In this case I think I need to downsize after
getting more experience first.

That's one way to go. But it sounds like you have all kinds of
experience, you're just making the switch to a fly rod. For me, part of
the fun of flyfishing is scaling the tackle down to the quarry I'm
after. But if your waters hold good numbers of 20"+ fish, I guess
you'll have to look for the compromise between being heavy enough to
land some fish, but not so heavy that you're just winching them in.

Otherwise you'd just grab your flippin' stick in the first place,
no? :-)


Chuck Vance

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

Otherwise you'd just grab your flippin' stick in the first place,
no? :-)


Ok, LOL. You got me there. LOL.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

"Bob La Londe" wrote in
:

I wish I had taken the time to look at some fly reels when I was at
Bass Pro Shops a week ago. None of my inexpesnive (ok cheap) fly
reels have a drag. In fact I'm not sure how a fly reel drag would
work. They all look like the handle is on the side of the spool.
Atleast in the pictures.

In some of the less expensive reels, there's a click mechanism that
serves as the drag. As these reels get a hair more expensive, there's
mechanisms to increase the tension on the click and pawl spring to
tighten the drag without knocking your fingers bloody on the reel handle.

It's lovely if these kind of reels have an exposed rim. That way, you
can apply the palm of your hand (gently) to the rim as its screaming out
of control to add some drag. Many reels don't have this arrangement,
particularly Pflueger Medalist. They have a nylon screw that you can
tighten onto the hub to increase drag. I've seen one modification to
this reel, where part of the housing was cut away, and a leather pad used
to exert pressure directly onto the side of the spool.

If you're looking for a bargain that will handle large bass, or even
steelhead, you can usually find Redington RS/2's in an appropriate size.
There's been some marketing wierdities between Redington and Orvis, and
the bottom line is there's cheap (maybe discontinued) reels out there,
marked for no warrantee.

Okuma also makes a reasonable reel. I haven't used them, but the drag
seems like the Redington.

You'll hear some people talk about "large arbour", which means the reel
has a larger diameter, and you can reel in quicker. The RS/2 is sort of
a "mid-arbour". Personally, I think there's more marketing to convince a
few generations of reel-owning fishermen that they need to buy new reels
than utility in these different arbour sizes.

--
Scott
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riverman wrote:

have a fly fishing friend who has only one arm. He uses automatic
reels - for salmon and steelhead as well. He uses a pumping action to
bring them in, holding the line under his finger while drawing back on
the rod, then releasing the line, squeezing the lever, and lowering the

rod to gain line. He does well with it. Another reel he got is called

a Franco Verelli. It has a cam lever that rotates the reel when it is
squeezed. The advantage to that one is that it does have an adjustable

drag.

Peter Collin


How does he land and unhook them? Can he manage that one-handed, or
does he always fish with a buddy?

--riverman


He beaches them when alone.

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
Anybody use an automatic reel. I have a couple. A Martin (I've never
used) and PFlueger ( I have used). It seems to work just fine for small
stocker rainbow trout, but I've never caught any big fish with a fly rod.
I 've always just stripped line and use the spring loaded reel to take up
slack.

In a recent post here somebody was talking about quickly getting a big
fish onto the reel so you can fight it. I think they went on to say that
you have to get a big fish onto the reel quickly or it will break off on
you. I don't think an automatic would have much use as a fighting tool.



--
Bob La Londe

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OK, time to spend some money. I broke one of my cute little automatic reels
trying to get it spooled up. The Martin. The Pflueger still works just
fine. My other cheap plastic reel may turn out to be the reel I use for
heavy stuff initially.


--
Bob La Londe

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:08:20 GMT, "Peter A. Collin"
wrote:

riverman wrote:

have a fly fishing friend who has only one arm. He uses automatic
reels - for salmon and steelhead as well. He uses a pumping action to
bring them in, holding the line under his finger while drawing back on
the rod, then releasing the line, squeezing the lever, and lowering the

rod to gain line. He does well with it. Another reel he got is called

a Franco Verelli. It has a cam lever that rotates the reel when it is
squeezed. The advantage to that one is that it does have an adjustable

drag.

Peter Collin


How does he land and unhook them? Can he manage that one-handed, or
does he always fish with a buddy?

--riverman


He beaches them when alone.

Does he CnR? If so, maybe he ought to just face the fact that there are
certain things he is no longer able to do, pardon the pun,
single-handed.

TC,
R

Bob sez:

OK, time to spend some money. I broke one of my cute little automatic
reels trying to get it spooled up. The Martin. The Pflueger still works
just fine. My other cheap plastic reel may turn out to be the reel I use
for heavy stuff initially.

As a steelhead guide who was a building contractor in his other life once
told me, "the only good use for an automatic reel was as a chaulk line."
You won't need a fancy high priced reel, just get one that feels good to you
on your rod and enjoy those bass! Oh yeah a bass taper fly line spooled on
that reel will help you enjoy casting those bugs a little easier.

Go fish and tell us all about it!

Good luck!
John

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:08:20 GMT, "Peter A. Collin"
wrote:

riverman wrote:

have a fly fishing friend who has only one arm. He uses automatic
reels - for salmon and steelhead as well. He uses a pumping action to
bring them in, holding the line under his finger while drawing back on
the rod, then releasing the line, squeezing the lever, and lowering the

rod to gain line. He does well with it. Another reel he got is called

a Franco Verelli. It has a cam lever that rotates the reel when it is
squeezed. The advantage to that one is that it does have an adjustable

drag.

Peter Collin


How does he land and unhook them? Can he manage that one-handed, or
does he always fish with a buddy?

--riverman


He beaches them when alone.

Does he CnR? If so, maybe he ought to just face the fact that there are
certain things he is no longer able to do, pardon the pun,
single-handed.

Hm.....

The evidence presented demonstrates conclusively that there are certain
things Peter's friend IS still able to do single-handed......unless, for
reasons unknown to me, there is reason to discount Peter's testimony. We
may certainly (and probably safely) infer that certain activities (say, a
career as a cellist, for example) are closed to a one-armed man, but
successfully catching and releasing salmon would not appear to be among
them.

Wolfgang
and then there's that whole murdering doctors' wives career choice......but
that's a whole 'nother show.