Oh-oh...it's looking at lot worse for the chosen people...

"Flycatcher" wrote ..

By the way, what's a clave?

John


Not that I've ever been, but 'clave' is short for conclave. Just a group
getting together to fish, etc. From what I gather, they tend to be roughly
equal in terms of fishing and 'etcetera'.

Dan

Sounds like a good idea! Anyone fancy one at Harelaw?


"Daniel-San" wrote in message
.. .

"Flycatcher" wrote ..

By the way, what's a clave?

John


Not that I've ever been, but 'clave' is short for conclave. Just a group
getting together to fish, etc. From what I gather, they tend to be roughly
equal in terms of fishing and 'etcetera'.

Dan

"Flycatcher" wrote

Sounds like a good idea! Anyone fancy one at Harelaw?


Figure out a way to transport the Harelaw Fishery from Scotland to about a
day's drive from Chicago, and I'm in.

Dan

I wish I'd thought of that! ;-)

John

"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
...
In article , says...
Fair point - but Bob Dylan still communicated his message rather well.
Don't you think? I'd read Dylan's stuff all the way through after all
(although I have to admit, I probably wouldn't need to. :-)).


Well, if your message is gibberish, then the perfect style to
convey that message would be gibberish, no?

Kevin

--
reply to:
kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

Flycatcher wrote:
Sounds like a good idea! Anyone fancy one at Harelaw?

Well, that'd be different anyway.

We are thoroughly spoiled on this side of the pond. I
just can't imagine fishing for stocked fish in a great
big fish bowl. And Harelaw was voted 5th best trout
fishery in Scotland ? That's ... well, hell I don't
know what that is except I won't be planning any fishing
vacations to Scotland anytime soon.

Instead of a Scotland 'Clave you should consider coming
over here for a 'Clave. We've pretty much settled into
a spring 'Clave in Pennsylvania, a summer 'Clave in
Montana, a fall 'Clave in North Carolina and a winter
'Clave on the San Juan in New Mexico along with a few
others on the east coast and in the midwest. We have
had at least a couple of European 'Claves that I know
of but the Euro roffians seem to have gone underground
lately.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Well, looking through various posts, it seems that some of you folk do like
to fly to your destinations. Maybe someone could pick up some hitchers and
then sort of divert to Prestwick? After all, if you can do interstate
fishing why limit yourselves!

;-)


"Daniel-San" wrote in message
.. .

"Flycatcher" wrote

Sounds like a good idea! Anyone fancy one at Harelaw?


Figure out a way to transport the Harelaw Fishery from Scotland to about a
day's drive from Chicago, and I'm in.

Dan

Just to get the facts completely straight Ken, Yes we do stock trout.
However the Brownies are completely indigenous and run to some good sizes -
10lbs plus.

We see the advantage of the stockies being that its good for the youngsters
and less proficient anglers to still have great sport. The truly big
specimens are either completely wild or in the case of the stocked specimens
they have developed a wariness commensurate with that size as most of our
stock fish are less than 2lbs in weight .

I'm sorry you won't be bothered to drop by. You will miss the banter of
more generously spirited souls.

John



"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Flycatcher wrote:
Sounds like a good idea! Anyone fancy one at Harelaw?

Well, that'd be different anyway.

We are thoroughly spoiled on this side of the pond. I
just can't imagine fishing for stocked fish in a great
big fish bowl. And Harelaw was voted 5th best trout
fishery in Scotland ? That's ... well, hell I don't
know what that is except I won't be planning any fishing
vacations to Scotland anytime soon.

Instead of a Scotland 'Clave you should consider coming
over here for a 'Clave. We've pretty much settled into
a spring 'Clave in Pennsylvania, a summer 'Clave in
Montana, a fall 'Clave in North Carolina and a winter
'Clave on the San Juan in New Mexico along with a few
others on the east coast and in the midwest. We have
had at least a couple of European 'Claves that I know
of but the Euro roffians seem to have gone underground
lately.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Flycatcher wrote:
Just to get the facts completely straight Ken, Yes we do stock trout.
snip
I'm sorry you won't be bothered to drop by. You will miss the banter of
more generously spirited souls.

Nothing wrong with my spirited soul, I just can't see
fishing for phony fish in a phony lake. But hey, if
that's all you got and you're happy with it, knock
yourself out. You guys fish for Atlantic salmon too,
right ? Real fish in real streams, now that's something
I'd travel to Scotland for.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Flycatcher" wrote ...
Well, looking through various posts, it seems that some of you folk do
like
to fly to your destinations. Maybe someone could pick up some hitchers
and
then sort of divert to Prestwick? After all, if you can do interstate
fishing why limit yourselves!

;-)



Other than the financial aspects of trans-atlantic flight, the real
'limit'-ing factor is my irrational, yet very paralyzing fear of
trans-oceanic flight. I know all about the physics of flight (well, not ALL
I s'pose, but enough), but somehow, Mr. Bernoulli doesnt give me much
comfort at 35K feet in what amounts to a giant aerosol can built by the
lowest bidder.

SWMBO keeps trying to get me to go to the UK for a vacation (err,
'holiday'). She's gone so far as to have her dad (an MD) prescribe large
doses of valium. Sorry, ain't happening.

Dan
Who drinks heavily on short flights.

Re. the salmon, that's very true! I'm currently within 10 miles of 4 major
salmon rivers - and planning to take full advantage of the next 2 months to
try and catch one myself - I've only been about 7 times in the last 10 years
(I only moved here recently) and blanked every time. First trip planned for
the end of September.

Quite a few of the anglers that visit Harelaw are avid salmon fishers. One
of the guys has invited me on to a stretch of the Leven - I wouldn't have
had a chance of getting on there had it not been for him as its a "members
and and their guests only" stretch. The other weekends I'll be going for
more public stretches of the Ayr, Leven, Irvine and Garnock.

Other anglers here include members of the Scottish fly fishing team - now
they wouldn't choose a mere puddle with such a wide variety of venues
available to them. However, you obviously know better than I on the subject
so I'll leave it there.

Tight lines!

John




"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Flycatcher wrote:
Just to get the facts completely straight Ken, Yes we do stock trout.
snip
I'm sorry you won't be bothered to drop by. You will miss the banter of
more generously spirited souls.

Nothing wrong with my spirited soul, I just can't see
fishing for phony fish in a phony lake. But hey, if
that's all you got and you're happy with it, knock
yourself out. You guys fish for Atlantic salmon too,
right ? Real fish in real streams, now that's something
I'd travel to Scotland for.

--
Ken Fortenberry