Foam Crayfish question

Originally Posted by sandy

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The above is my favorite Crayfish pattern. I caught my biggest brown
in long time on this fly, on the lower Madison, late last fall.

After you catch the first fish, if you hold the fly underneath your net
and squeeze-pump the foam body of the fly a few times, as the
scent-laden fish slime runs down off the net.....then the fly suddenly
becomes noticably, substantially more effective.

Is that "unethical?" Why?

Am I trolling this question? Maybe. But it is an interesting
question. Ethical/not ethical depends on which and whose rules
you play by, it seems to me. Are there any moral absolutes in
the fishing business?

I've published quite a few fly tying pieces in glossy magazines over the
years. But I know I could never get anything about
scent-laden foam Crayfish flies published. Even though they're hot as
a fish catching pistol. Why not is part of my original question.
Why are the concepts of odor and wiggling, lure-like flies
so totally off limits in polite fly fishing society?

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Sandy, do you have an Empty Aquarium??
This is one way of hands on research fo any Aquatic Life I've done it since I was 5 years old, Now 49. If you'll Notice, when you put certain baby fish in any Healthy Aquarium and start to watch them closely, they will start NIPPING at each other. You will think toyourself that they are mean to each other, This is their way of Pecking orders, but at the same time thier brain has a Memory that lasts throughout their life just as you and I.
Trout have an acquired taste for Fins on other fellow trout, they Nip at each other constantly as well as many many other critters on this planet do.
My point is, when you squeeze the Flavor of trout etc. onto your Flies and start getting better results youwill see that when you get the Flavor onto the fly you will possibly even catch the same size trout. Remember the have a pecking order and they Stick To It and do this by Taste or Flavor. But this is only My OPinion from My Research.
In most States it is Very Illegal to keep some species in an Aquarium, but if you do your home studies on a private level, and RELEASE them at a Healthy time, you won't even feel guilty unless you forget to feed em. and DO be careful what you give em, trust me NO corn,cheese or greasy little munchies like we eat , Only naturals bugs etc.
P.S. Keep a Cover on the Aquarium at all times ,no matter what. and By the way, YES, I think this is a VERY GOOD and ETHICAL QUESTION and hope that I'm correct on my Input becuz My 2 daughters think I'm full of B.S.

Thats a Very Interesting Theory about trout Nipping Each Other,
jbthwart77. I've had a Theory of My Own for awhile. I wonder if you put
a Plane Of Glass in the Aquarium, and put a Baitfish on The Other Side,
so that the Trout will Bump His Nose when he LUNGES for It, will he
then Remember That Fish when the Pane Of Glass is REMOVED?

If you TRY it, Let Us Know the RESULT.

TIA

--rivermn

Originally Posted by riverman

Thats a Very Interesting Theory about trout Nipping Each Other,
jbthwart77. I've had a Theory of My Own for awhile. I wonder if you put
a Plane Of Glass in the Aquarium, and put a Baitfish on The Other Side,
so that the Trout will Bump His Nose when he LUNGES for It, will he
then Remember That Fish when the Pane Of Glass is REMOVED?

If you TRY it, Let Us Know the RESULT.

TIA

--rivermn

Howdy Riverman, I'm Not a Biologist By any means but,Yes he will be ready for 2 things,either to chase or avoid any confrontation 90% of the time. I have put glass in an Aquarium to seperate the Adult fish from their Offspring when they consume the young,etc. even different species at same agegroup etc.
Rainbows are a Vicious Breed and I do believe that They have a Stronger or just as Strong since of Smell and Taste for "Meat" as any Flathead Catfish I've ever seen. Both, or All species have some things in common as far as Taste ,Smell, and even Curiosity; Yes they are Highly Intellegent, I have Proved it. At 2" long,The Flathead Catfish is Trainable at feeding time, where the Trout will sometimes Starve himself to avoid being seen or Noticed,Touched,etc. Rainbows and others as well, Like to think they are Invisable which is self satisfaction. This I've tested with several different kinds of Aquatic Critters in aquariums rite down to Crawdads; Most people have No Clue How Smart "All Wild Critters" are; The fish in the Arkansas Southwest Rivers are Being Cross Bred,Yes and they are some of the Scrappiest fish I ever delt with My Theory is, and I don't care what the School books say,"Anything that consumes Food" has to Use his Brain to Smell,Taste,Touch; and only Lives to Eat, Reproduce,and Stay in a Survival Mode. I miss the River. It's been 3 1/2 years.