ROD BUILDING?

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...
...At the risk of going even further afield -- I wonder if this is another
one of those cases of guys who are process-oriented vs. results oriented.
My hobbies are very much focused on the process.

For most of us, most of the time, it's a sort of hybrid. Very few of us
will bother to grow our own trees for lumber or make our own carbon fiber
sheeting.....or whatever the hell it's called. Nor will many of us buy a
vintage Record plane or a Winston rod and then pay someone to use it for us.


Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

...At the risk of going even further afield -- I wonder if this is another
one of those cases of guys who are process-oriented vs. results oriented.
My hobbies are very much focused on the process.

For most of us, most of the time, it's a sort of hybrid. Very few of us
will bother to grow our own trees for lumber or make our own carbon fiber
sheeting.....or whatever the hell it's called. Nor will many of us buy a
vintage Record plane or a Winston rod and then pay someone to use it for us.


Touche. :-) There's an ongoing disucssion on a woodworking group I
sometimes follow that usually devolves into something along the lines
of, "well if you're not flint-knapping your own tools ...".

But I do think there's a real dichotomy there. For example, if I'm
not mistaken, Steve doesn't tie his own flies, preferring to buy them
rather than take the time to tie them up himself. I love tying flies,
and when I do buy them it's usually to get a "working model" to copy. I
have yet to build a rod, but (like Claspy, that crazy bugger) when/if I
do, I'll probably go the whole nine yards and try to build a bamboo rod.

I enjoy the fact that I have a tangible byproduct of my hobbies, but
I have so much fun partaking of the process that I imagine I'd still do
it even without the tangible evidence. If I was more concerned about
the end result, there are any number of places where I could speed up
the process and even insure that my work is more uniform.

But I've even been known to clamp a board to my bench and take a
handplane to it for no other reason than to see the little wispy
shavings come out of the plane. :-)


Chuck Vance (I've heard rumors that Bill does the same thing, too)

Conan The Librarian wrote:

But I do think there's a real dichotomy there. For example, if I'm
not mistaken, Steve doesn't tie his own flies, preferring to buy them
rather than take the time to tie them up himself.

You're mistaken.

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rw wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

But I do think there's a real dichotomy there. For example, if I'm
not mistaken, Steve doesn't tie his own flies, preferring to buy them
rather than take the time to tie them up himself.

You're mistaken.

Oooops, sorry.


Chuck Vance (but the point I was making still stands)

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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rw wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

But I do think there's a real dichotomy there. For example, if I'm
not mistaken, Steve doesn't tie his own flies, preferring to buy them
rather than take the time to tie them up himself.
You're mistaken.

Oooops, sorry.


Chuck Vance (but the point I was making still stands)

It does indeed. Not only that, but you were right.

Wolfgang
who, while willing to concede that there is possibly only one worthy of our
adulation, would risk a shiny new nickel on the proposition that there is
more than one stevie in this world.

Conan The Librarian wrote:
rw wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

But I do think there's a real dichotomy there. For example, if
I'm not mistaken, Steve doesn't tie his own flies, preferring to buy
them rather than take the time to tie them up himself.


You're mistaken.


Oooops, sorry.


Chuck Vance (but the point I was making still stands)

I've read through your post several times and I can't figure out what
point you were trying to make. As near as I can tell, it's something
along the lines of since I don't tie flies I'm somehow lazy or clueless
or unqualified to comment about rod-building tools. But that's crazy
because, even if I am lazy or clueless or unqualified, I do tie flies.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw wrote:

I've read through your post several times and I can't figure out what
point you were trying to make. As near as I can tell, it's something
along the lines of since I don't tie flies I'm somehow lazy or clueless
or unqualified to comment about rod-building tools. But that's crazy
because, even if I am lazy or clueless or unqualified, I do tie flies.

Chill, Steve. My point is simply that some of us enjoy the creative
process as much as the end result. Others just focus on the end product.

It just so happened that I (mis)remembered that you didn't tie your
own flies. It wasn't a slam, just an obsveration.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian wrote:
rw wrote:

I've read through your post several times and I can't figure out what
point you were trying to make. As near as I can tell, it's something
along the lines of since I don't tie flies I'm somehow lazy or
clueless or unqualified to comment about rod-building tools. But
that's crazy because, even if I am lazy or clueless or unqualified, I
do tie flies.


Chill, Steve. My point is simply that some of us enjoy the creative
process as much as the end result. Others just focus on the end product.

It just so happened that I (mis)remembered that you didn't tie your
own flies. It wasn't a slam, just an obsveration.


Chuck Vance

Fair enough. I'm definitely more toward the "results oriented" end of
the spectrum than toward the "process oriented" side. For example, when
I catch a fish I couldn't care less about whether I caught it with a fly
I tied myself, and I can't ever recall regarding a fishless fishing trip
as nevertheless a "good trip," as some do. :-)

I think a point that Willi was making, and with which I agree, is that
"assembling" a graphite rod doesn't rise very far to the status of a
"creative process."

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