OT John Murtha Democrat from Pennsylvania

asadi wrote:
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In any event, I was highly supportive of C. Powell, and admired the way he
chose not to run for president...saying bluntly that he would not put his
family through the trivial and anal "exposé's" of the press. Yet, this
man - whose scruples I admired - seems to have lost them (scruples) while
serving in the Bush administration. Or do you think that he 'served' and did
his 'duty' regardless of the morals of his superiors?

I think Colin Powell's speech in front of the UN was the low
point of an otherwise distinguished career. When you lay down
with swine, you can't help but smell bad yourself.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
asadi wrote:

snip
In any event, I was highly supportive of C. Powell, and admired the
way he chose not to run for president...saying bluntly that he would
not put his family through the trivial and anal "exposé's" of the
press. Yet, this man - whose scruples I admired - seems to have lost
them (scruples) while serving in the Bush administration. Or do you
think that he 'served' and did his 'duty' regardless of the morals of
his superiors?


I think Colin Powell's speech in front of the UN was the low
point of an otherwise distinguished career. When you lay down
with swine, you can't help but smell bad yourself.

That speech ruined Powell's reputation, and he's ****ed. A recent Powell
quote is revealing: "History is a dish best served cold." Substitute
"revenge" for "history".

His former chief of staff, Lawrence Wilkerson, has been criticizing the
lies that got us into the Iraq debacle, obviously with Powell's blessing.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote..


His former chief of staff, Lawrence Wilkerson, has been criticizing the
lies that got us into the Iraq debacle, obviously with Powell's blessing.


Read something about that in the Tribune
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...=1&cset =true
)

How long 'till he gets 'swit boat'-ed?

A sad, sad thing. Disagree and you're smeared.

Dan

'swit boat'-ed?


Oops.... swift.....

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:37:42 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

asadi wrote:
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In any event, I was highly supportive of C. Powell, and admired the way he
chose not to run for president...saying bluntly that he would not put his
family through the trivial and anal "exposé's" of the press. Yet, this
man - whose scruples I admired - seems to have lost them (scruples) while
serving in the Bush administration. Or do you think that he 'served' and did
his 'duty' regardless of the morals of his superiors?

I think Colin Powell's speech in front of the UN was the low
point of an otherwise distinguished career. When you lay down
with swine, you can't help but smell bad yourself.

Powell was where he was (and where he is) because he was: a) "team
player," and b) to a lesser extent, black. Do some research on the
early part of his career, particularly his days in Vietnam, and
moreover, any information relating to Calley and My Lai - no, I am not
suggesting he was in any way involved pre-incident. And no, I'm not
saying he was bad, good, or indifferent - merely offering a place to
start.

I will offer my opinion that Powell is and was like many others: a
competent enough soldier and officer, and as such, his personal feelings
about this or that are not really material in the face of lawful orders.

R