Anyone remember this article?

"rw" wrote in message
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I think that even saying you caught exactly 32 fish is bad form, even if
you did catch them.

Actually, it's perfectly acceptable......as long as you snag them.

Wolfgang
the boy just WILL NOT learn.

I was told about this story and in the telling, which could be wildly
inaccurate, the person named had the initials ES and recently passed away.

I don't know the authenticity but it has become a bit of joke among some
guides here if they get skunked... when asked how they got on the answer
"32" answers all questions.

Clark


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote in message
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I think that even saying you caught exactly 32 fish is bad form, even if
you did catch them.

Actually, it's perfectly acceptable......as long as you snag them.

Wolfgang
the boy just WILL NOT learn.

"Clark Reid" wrote in message
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I was told about this story and in the telling, which could be wildly
inaccurate, the person named had the initials ES and recently passed away.

I don't know the authenticity but it has become a bit of joke among some
guides here if they get skunked... when asked how they got on the answer
"32" answers all questions.

Clark


What you say is exactly what I was given to understand, but in the story,
the name is not given. At one time I hung at a fly shop with some pretty
knowledgeable guys and "ES" was known among them to be the culprit.


--
Gene Cottrell

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
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"Clark Reid" wrote in message
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I was told about this story and in the telling, which could be wildly
inaccurate, the person named had the initials ES and recently passed away.

I don't know the authenticity but it has become a bit of joke among some
guides here if they get skunked... when asked how they got on the answer
"32" answers all questions.

Clark


What you say is exactly what I was given to understand, but in the story,
the name is not given. At one time I hung at a fly shop with some pretty
knowledgeable guys and "ES" was known among them to be the culprit.

I wasn't aware of this particular story until it came up here. For that
matter, looking through the thread I'm not at all convinced that it is "A"
story......it could easily be....in fact, it looks like it IS a
concatenation of two or more similar stories. At any rate, I suspect that
the original predates S.G.H., E.S, and J.G. by a couple of millennia, give
or take a century or two. It may be every bit as hoary as the one about the
famous angler purchasing a nice mess of trout from the barefoot boy with
cheeks of tan (and a piece of string and a safety pin).

Meanwhile, what's really interesting is that folks tend to accept not only
the veracity of the story but also the famous fisherman's implicit intent to
deceive as gospel. Given the pressure to perform that has already been
mentioned here, it seems to me just as likely that the famous fisherman
might get tired of the close scrutiny and might occasionally say
"thirty-two" as a polite alternative to "**** you".

Wolfgang
who ALWAYS counts......but generally gets distracted and loses track by 3 or
4.

.. I would hate to be famous and
always have that stress on me to exceed.
Pete Collin

Good point Peter which is why I hope never to be famous and just
remain a "legend in my own mind"
Besides I like getting my butt kicked by tough trout.

MT

Tried to e mail this direct but not bloodylikely.com is not a bloody
valid address

HI Clark
How are you doing??
I dont read this group much but good to see you writing. Is
Colorado Steve still out there?
I went to AK this year for salmon and bows, was a little too easy for
my taste.
I moved to within 3 miles of the Missourri River in MT so now I
mostly
dryfly fish and only in good conditions. Talk about being spoiled! Hope
things are well and hope to get back to NZ one day

MT

Gidday Mark... which article are you referring to?

Glad to hear things are going well, I must admit when it comes to the
freshwater these days I don't fish too much. Did spend a morning on the
Tonagriro the other last week but still only could get interested in fishing
by tying on a dry. Of course 99% of New Zealanders think the Tongariro is a
nymph or wetfly river but I managed to get several fish to others none on a
big Turk's tarantula... so I left feeling about as smug as possible

I have gone completely obsessed with sal****er flyfishing though and may
even make a career change in that direction at some stage.

Steve is doing well and guiding up a storm. He has a new a Baby boy "Miles"
and is happier than a dog with two tails.

I hope you do get back this way and we'll spend some time ont he stream.

Kind rergards


Clark oh and clarkatdryflynz.com will get hold of me.
"mark tinsky" wrote in message
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Tried to e mail this direct but not bloodylikely.com is not a bloody
valid address

HI Clark
How are you doing??
I dont read this group much but good to see you writing. Is
Colorado Steve still out there?
I went to AK this year for salmon and bows, was a little too easy for
my taste.
I moved to within 3 miles of the Missourri River in MT so now I
mostly
dryfly fish and only in good conditions. Talk about being spoiled! Hope
things are well and hope to get back to NZ one day

MT

Mark, Dries only? Wow, times change.

Clark, your success at sal****er was probably immediate, because it
seems to me that the New Zealand style, ie, sight fishing and long
accurate casts, is probably super good experience for the salt.

bruce h

"bruiser" wrote in message Mark, Dries only? Wow, times change.

Clark, your success at sal****er was probably immediate, because it
seems to me that the New Zealand style, ie, sight fishing and long
accurate casts, is probably super good experience for the salt.

Yes and no Bruce. On my first "serious" excursion after Kingfish
(Yellowtail Kingfish, rated by many as the dirtiest toughest streetfighter
type in the Ocean down here) I hooked three which I felt was beginners luck.
I had done the research and believe that's how I got some shots... but after
hook up I got severely spanked by them and in Three fish lost three flies, a
flyline and most of my composure. My wife was with me and she found it
hilarious as I sat on a rock after the first one just saying "Holy F&^k"
over and over again... I had never felt power from a fish like it.
http://www.amonline.net.au/fishes/st...ellowtail2.htm

However, we don't have a lot of flats fishing here so sighted stuff is
limited to what comes in close. In a lot of cases we use burley to attract
the baitfish to the rock ledges, this then brings the predators in... Then
we are often sight fishing for kahawai (Australian Slamon, not a salmonid)
http://www.kahawai.co.nz/ I believe the Kahawai is, pound for pound one of
the great sports fishesof the world and is, as yet, virtually unknown. You
do get to sight fish for these, although there are sometimes 10,000 of them
in the group which makes spotting easy !

The "Kingies" will often hang out around structure like Beacon poles etc so
we often use a boat and drift in [pitching our fly as close to the down
current side as we dare and then double strip like crazy... On one beacon we
did this and about 100 kingfish (Rats all less than 36 inches) chased our
flies with all three anglers hooking up... What a buzz..... The problem in
those situations though is the nasty buggers will always try and head strait
back to the barnacle covered pole... tough on gear! The Kahawai is a much
cleaner fighter with long runs and often aerobatic displays.

I think after years in the frsh the main advantages over most newbies are
just knowing a bit about the tackle, how to cast, rig etc... the rest is all
new and that has been part of the delight... I love being the one asking
dumb questions for once instead of answering them and even more fun not
feeling like I have some BS expectation to live up to....

Clark

Those are obviously badass fish Clark. I've caught very few "good"
sal****er fish and have described it here as having my big flyrod
turned into a running chainsaw. I can hardly imagine what one of those
Yellowtails of yours would do. Looks like great fun. bruce h