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Old January 18th, 2006, 11:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Smallmouth bass and stripers are among the hardest hit recently but many
others also affected. The story was on today's "All Things Considered" and
can be heard at NPR's website:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5162318

Wolfgang


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Old January 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:30:47 -0600, "Wolfgang"
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Smallmouth bass and stripers are among the hardest hit recently but many
others also affected. The story was on today's "All Things Considered" and
can be heard at NPR's website:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5162318

Wolfgang



Well, thats depressing. I guess I don't find it surprising though.


g.c.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 01:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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George Cleveland wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:30:47 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


Smallmouth bass and stripers are among the hardest hit recently but many
others also affected. The story was on today's "All Things Considered" and
can be heard at NPR's website:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5162318

Wolfgang




Well, thats depressing. I guess I don't find it surprising though.


g.c.

I fished for stripers on the coast of Maine about 3 years ago, and it
was wonderful, fast action. Has anybody seen the striper fishing
decline that recently?

Pete Collin
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Old January 19th, 2006, 01:45 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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George Cleveland wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:30:47 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


Smallmouth bass and stripers are among the hardest hit recently but many
others also affected. The story was on today's "All Things Considered" and
can be heard at NPR's website:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5162318

Wolfgang




Well, thats depressing. I guess I don't find it surprising though.


g.c.


damn... the stripers have given some life during the winter to the
fishing economy on the outer banks. we have developed a huge
tourist-charter and sportfishing industry off the nc outer banks for
stripers during the winter - and this year has yielded good fishing. i
haven't heard/read any reports of diseased fish being caught off oregon
inlet this year, and we just had a new state record set two weeks ago -
a 62 pound striped bass. i don't doubt there have been some, and it may
be limited because water temps haven't hit optimum for the run from up
north. we have good to excellent striper (rock) fishing in the
alligator river and the roanoke river in march and april - all the fish
i've caught have been healthy and without sores.

jeff
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Old January 19th, 2006, 02:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:45:17 -0500, Jeff Miller
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damn... the stripers have given some life during the winter to the
fishing economy on the outer banks. we have developed a huge
tourist-charter and sportfishing industry off the nc outer banks for
stripers during the winter - and this year has yielded good fishing. i
haven't heard/read any reports of diseased fish being caught off oregon
inlet this year, and we just had a new state record set two weeks ago -
a 62 pound striped bass. i don't doubt there have been some, and it may
be limited because water temps haven't hit optimum for the run from up
north. we have good to excellent striper (rock) fishing in the
alligator river and the roanoke river in march and april - all the fish
i've caught have been healthy and without sores.

Don't worry. With a _scientist_ called "Wolfgang" on the case, can a
solution be far behind? I mean, these same folks have only been
predicting this same eminent, immediate, and total catastrophe for, oh,
about 10 years. And this Wolfgang has his own personal opinion of the
absolutely necessary solution: "The need to fund the disease
research..."

Translation - "I'm a grant away from needing a cardboard sign that says,
'Will postulate for a Frappamochachino'..."

Is there a problem? Yeah, probably a small one. Is the sky failing?
No, not likely, based on the actual data. This seems to be yet another
genetic-blip-meets-man's-interaction that causes a population reduction
until the affected species adapt. And remember, "genetic blips" and
other natural events cause population swings even when man provides no
influence - look to bream population swings, esp in closed systems, for
similar swings that a fund-seeking "scientist" could use to separate
funders from funds.

TC,
R


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Old January 19th, 2006, 02:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:45:17 -0500, Jeff Miller
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damn... the stripers have given some life during the winter to the
fishing economy on the outer banks. we have developed a huge
tourist-charter and sportfishing industry off the nc outer banks for
stripers during the winter - and this year has yielded good fishing. i
haven't heard/read any reports of diseased fish being caught off oregon
inlet this year, and we just had a new state record set two weeks ago -
a 62 pound striped bass. i don't doubt there have been some, and it may
be limited because water temps haven't hit optimum for the run from up
north. we have good to excellent striper (rock) fishing in the
alligator river and the roanoke river in march and april - all the fish
i've caught have been healthy and without sores.

Don't worry. With a _scientist_ called "Wolfgang" on the case, can a
solution be far behind? I mean, these same folks have only been
predicting this same eminent, immediate, and total catastrophe for, oh,
about 10 years. And this Wolfgang has his own personal opinion of the
absolutely necessary solution: "The need to fund the disease
research..."

Translation - "I'm a grant away from needing a cardboard sign that says,
'Will postulate for a Frappamochachino'..."

Is there a problem? Yeah, probably a small one. Is the sky failing?
No, not likely, based on the actual data. This seems to be yet another
genetic-blip-meets-man's-interaction that causes a population reduction
until the affected species adapt. And remember, "genetic blips" and
other natural events cause population swings even when man provides no
influence - look to bream population swings, esp in closed systems, for
similar swings that a fund-seeking "scientist" could use to separate
funders from funds.


Yeah, leave it alone......it'll go away. I mean, it's not as if there's any
evidence of any environmental problems affecting the continued robust health
of species anywhere......right?

Wolfgang
who knows that a double naught dicklet with nothing to say trumps......well,
just about everything.


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Old January 19th, 2006, 02:59 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:36:38 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:45:17 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:



damn... the stripers have given some life during the winter to the
fishing economy on the outer banks. we have developed a huge
tourist-charter and sportfishing industry off the nc outer banks for
stripers during the winter - and this year has yielded good fishing. i
haven't heard/read any reports of diseased fish being caught off oregon
inlet this year, and we just had a new state record set two weeks ago -
a 62 pound striped bass. i don't doubt there have been some, and it may
be limited because water temps haven't hit optimum for the run from up
north. we have good to excellent striper (rock) fishing in the
alligator river and the roanoke river in march and april - all the fish
i've caught have been healthy and without sores.

Don't worry. With a _scientist_ called "Wolfgang" on the case, can a
solution be far behind? I mean, these same folks have only been
predicting this same eminent, immediate, and total catastrophe for, oh,
about 10 years. And this Wolfgang has his own personal opinion of the
absolutely necessary solution: "The need to fund the disease
research..."

Translation - "I'm a grant away from needing a cardboard sign that says,
'Will postulate for a Frappamochachino'..."

Is there a problem? Yeah, probably a small one. Is the sky failing?
No, not likely, based on the actual data. This seems to be yet another
genetic-blip-meets-man's-interaction that causes a population reduction
until the affected species adapt. And remember, "genetic blips" and
other natural events cause population swings even when man provides no
influence - look to bream population swings, esp in closed systems, for
similar swings that a fund-seeking "scientist" could use to separate
funders from funds.


Yeah, leave it alone......it'll go away.

Yes, possibly, even probably. A look at the data for the last 10 years
shows that the population overall is growing exponentially, and as such,
any "genetic blip" not related to reproduction, such as a lack of
immunity to a particular disease or environmental factor, would also
likely grow exponentially. As these fish die out of the population, as
well as the population adapted to the "affecting factor X" reproduce,
the indication is that the population as a whole will overcome the
problem. And in a special little miracle of nature, such things manage
to occur without funding...

I mean, it's not as if there's any
evidence of any environmental problems affecting the continued robust health
of species anywhere......right?


EXACTLY! I mean, what's with the ridiculous ban on DDT and "Agent
Orange" and other good, wholesome chemicals? That's why if you take the
third letter of every other word in my original reply, you find a secret
message that says "Support the PAC of 'Republicans for the Use of Any
Chemical Our Yale Friends Now at Monsanto, duPont, BASF, and Other Good,
Noble Chemical Companies Might Wanna Sell' before they change the rules
and make it harder to bribe Congress..."


Eleven-and-a-half genetically healthy eagles....dick
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Old January 19th, 2006, 03:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:36:38 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:45:17 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:



damn... the stripers have given some life during the winter to the
fishing economy on the outer banks. we have developed a huge
tourist-charter and sportfishing industry off the nc outer banks for
stripers during the winter - and this year has yielded good fishing. i
haven't heard/read any reports of diseased fish being caught off oregon
inlet this year, and we just had a new state record set two weeks ago -
a 62 pound striped bass. i don't doubt there have been some, and it may
be limited because water temps haven't hit optimum for the run from up
north. we have good to excellent striper (rock) fishing in the
alligator river and the roanoke river in march and april - all the fish
i've caught have been healthy and without sores.

Don't worry. With a _scientist_ called "Wolfgang" on the case, can a
solution be far behind? I mean, these same folks have only been
predicting this same eminent, immediate, and total catastrophe for, oh,
about 10 years. And this Wolfgang has his own personal opinion of the
absolutely necessary solution: "The need to fund the disease
research..."

Translation - "I'm a grant away from needing a cardboard sign that says,
'Will postulate for a Frappamochachino'..."

Is there a problem? Yeah, probably a small one. Is the sky failing?
No, not likely, based on the actual data. This seems to be yet another
genetic-blip-meets-man's-interaction that causes a population reduction
until the affected species adapt. And remember, "genetic blips" and
other natural events cause population swings even when man provides no
influence - look to bream population swings, esp in closed systems, for
similar swings that a fund-seeking "scientist" could use to separate
funders from funds.


Yeah, leave it alone......it'll go away.

Yes, possibly, even probably. A look at the data for the last 10 years
shows that the population overall is growing exponentially, and as such,
any "genetic blip" not related to reproduction, such as a lack of
immunity to a particular disease or environmental factor, would also
likely grow exponentially. As these fish die out of the population, as
well as the population adapted to the "affecting factor X" reproduce,
the indication is that the population as a whole will overcome the
problem. And in a special little miracle of nature, such things manage
to occur without funding...

I mean, it's not as if there's any
evidence of any environmental problems affecting the continued robust
health
of species anywhere......right?


EXACTLY! I mean, what's with the ridiculous ban on DDT and "Agent
Orange" and other good, wholesome chemicals? That's why if you take the
third letter of every other word in my original reply, you find a secret
message that says "Support the PAC of 'Republicans for the Use of Any
Chemical Our Yale Friends Now at Monsanto, duPont, BASF, and Other Good,
Noble Chemical Companies Might Wanna Sell' before they change the rules
and make it harder to bribe Congress..."


Eleven-and-a-half genetically healthy eagles....dick


Yeah.

So, anyway, I've been wondering......should you discover....someday.....that
you actually DO have something to day, you'd share it with us......right? I
mean, no pressure.....no expectations.....I'm just saying "if".

Wolfgang
who hastens to remind readers that while one anonymous maggot still looks
very much like another, they can sometimes be distinguished by their varying
capacities. this one, for example, shows promise......we have already
taught it to refer to itself as "dick" in just a couple of short years.


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Oh, don't worry your silly little head, Igor...I'm sure some Dr.
Fronkensteen somewhere will always need a minion to find "Abi" and run
other errands for them...
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Oh, don't worry your silly little head, Igor...I'm sure some Dr.
Fronkensteen somewhere will always need a minion to find "Abi" and run
other errands for them...


Hi all...went on a chartered trip a couple months ago on the chesapeak
(first time fishin from a charter boat) and it was just slow, we were out
all day caught two only one was just barely a keeper to bring back in with
us. Sucked, so now at least I can account it to something. The captain and
first mate were scrambling to get a bite all day long. Said it was the worst
day they had been a part of for quite some time. They were yapping back and
forth over the radios with the other boats and I guess normally they would
keep the good spot quiet but they talked as if the rest of the charters were
more or less skunked. I know i'm not talkin about the rivers or anything but
it still sucked for the money the boss paid for the trip.

Hope everyone's ready for some warmer days, I may just go out and throw the
line around if it gets warm like the weatherman is saying. One can only
hope! woo hoo!

Anthony


 




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