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"scud" hooks, fact or fancy?



 
 
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Old January 30th, 2006, 08:59 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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I agree that they're a little tougher to get in and out of the C & F
slots. You should just stick with the straight shanks if that's what
you like.

If you do get any scud hooks - get the TMC 2488. I think it's the best
scud hook, especially in the smaller sizes, because it's got a straight
eye.

For a while I tied lots of nymphs on scud hooks but now I'm back to the
TMC 3761 most of the time, especially the bead heads. These are just
my opinions though because most of the time I'm just guessing.

I'll warn you though, Larry, that these nymphs and especially the bead
heads don't float very well. (G). bh

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Old January 30th, 2006, 09:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"bruiser" wrote

I'll warn you though, Larry, that these nymphs and especially the bead
heads don't float very well. (G). bh


LOL, that recalls a moment so embarassing it's taken years for me to 'come
out" about it.

I fisrst fly fished in '71 and maybe in '72 or '73 I went into a fly shop
and asked for help selecting 'killer patterns" for whereever I was. I
stopped the salesperson when the quanity seemed to appoach the limits of my
bank account and went fishing. But I was back next day to complaining and
trying and to return some flies that absolutely sucked because they just
wouldn't float regardless of how much gunk I smeared on 'em.

In retrospect, I have to admire the saleman's restraint, as he smiled, and
chuckled, but didn't outright gaffaw as he explained that they were weighted
and supposed to be fished near the bottom G

As I think about it, that moment may have had a lasting effect on my general
dislike of combining lead with fishing G

........................................


I heard somewhere recently that when Karl Rove was in High School he got in
a huge argument with a fellow student that was a 'liberal' Democrat. The
argument turned physical and Rove got the **** kicked out of him, in front
of many students, by that Democrat .................. one that happened to
be a GIRL. I think that may explain the man !

.............................

We all have fleeting moments that shape us for life.


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Old January 31st, 2006, 12:26 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"bruiser" wrote

- get the TMC 2488.


I d/loaded a .pdf of Tiemco's catalog and it looks like a nice hook. I've
used curved hooks only for caddis as Mike suggested and half-in half-out
emergers as Willi noted, in the past and I've decided that is the only real
use I plan for the future. If he won't eat a BHFBPT on a straight hook, I
ain't going to catch him G

I prefer barbless hooks and a couple places I fish the warden is very picky
about it, using panty hose to see if any catches to determine if you are
'de-barbed enough. Have you ever tried the TMC 206 BL?

I've never specifically looked but I don't remember seeing TMC 2488 hooks in
my travels ... where are you getting them?


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Old January 31st, 2006, 12:17 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"bruiser" wrote in message
ups.com...
I agree that they're a little tougher to get in and out of the C & F
slots. You should just stick with the straight shanks if that's what
you like.
If you do get any scud hooks - get the TMC 2488. I think it's the best
scud hook, especially in the smaller sizes, because it's got a straight
eye.
For a while I tied lots of nymphs on scud hooks but now I'm back to the
TMC 3761 most of the time, especially the bead heads. These are just
my opinions though because most of the time I'm just guessing.

(snip)
(G). bh
Hi bh,
Got some flies sitting here for you for the San Juan Clave . . . heh . . .
heh . . . that was 2007, right?
Size 22 and 24. Coming to you sometime. (heck, can't believe I need to pay
another 2 cents for postage, and I gotta figure out how to use the old
stamps and then put on a 2 cent stamp also.)
For scud hooks.
Glanced through a couple boxes. It seems I use some more than I thought.
But for the down eye hooks . . . and blasphemy to some . . . I always offset
the hook at bit with a forceps, or in the vise. Hookups work out better.
For general use I would go with a wide gap straight eye something, and still
offset a bit.
DaveMohnsen
Denver
(the TMC 2488 Bruiser's recommendation is good. For a bit I used a Daiichi
1140 or something, but their marketing needed a bit of help)





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Old January 31st, 2006, 01:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Hi Dave. Here's what you should do: Deliver the flies in person, and
we'll try them out. We don't need to wait until 2007. Don't forget
that the San Juan is barely over the border and on many days, most of
the license plates are green! Thanks very much for tying those flies.
bh

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Old January 31st, 2006, 06:41 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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I agree that the TMC 2488 with the straight eye is a great hook for very
small flies, particularly midge pupae, etc.,as well as for actual scuds.
I like the TMC 2457 for serendipities, though, and the lighter 2487
for parachute-style emergers, because I find it easier to thread the
tippet through the eye if the eye is curved down and away from the spun
hair head or the horizontally wound hackle.

JR
 




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