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Old February 13th, 2006, 12:52 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Lets send him to Iraq where he can use his newly acquired skills
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cheney_hunting_accident

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Old February 13th, 2006, 01:10 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Larry and a Cat named Dub wrote:

Lets send him to Iraq where he can use his newly acquired skills
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cheney_hunting_accident

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heard the guy was a former gov. bush appointee to the texas funeral
commission? guess scalia will now have a reason to reconsider hunting
junkets with cheney, eh?
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Old February 13th, 2006, 02:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Jeff Miller wrote:
Larry and a Cat named Dub wrote:

Lets send him to Iraq where he can use his newly acquired skills
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cheney_hunting_accident

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heard the guy was a former gov. bush appointee to the texas funeral
commission? guess scalia will now have a reason to reconsider hunting
junkets with cheney, eh?


The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried to cover it up:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001995719

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Old February 13th, 2006, 03:03 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried to cover it up:


Doesn't sound like a cover up to me and I really would not expect them
to call a press conference announcing the vice president screwed up,
but I got a kick out of this line from the article you linked:

"White House aides can be expected to say that the Vice President did
not shoot Whittington, which suggests a bullet, but rather sprayed him
with birdshot, a type of ammunition made up of tiny pieces of lead or
steel,"

Whoever came up with this needs to work in marketing, not political
spin.

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Old February 13th, 2006, 03:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried to cover it up:


Doesn't sound like a cover up to me and I really would not expect them
to call a press conference announcing the vice president screwed up,


Cover up or not, yet another exercise in preternatural stupidity. When Dick
Cheney shoots somebody and the news breaks more than a day later.....and
then only because someone else found out about it and announced it.....how
can the thought of cover up NOT occur?

but I got a kick out of this line from the article you linked:

"White House aides can be expected to say that the Vice President did
not shoot Whittington, which suggests a bullet, but rather sprayed him
with birdshot, a type of ammunition made up of tiny pieces of lead or
steel,"

Whoever came up with this needs to work in marketing, not political
spin.


It does sort of help one to understand better the rationale for the current
campaign in Iraq. Turns out that we've just been spraying the
place.......pest control. Who can object to that?

Wolfgang


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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?


I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.

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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?


I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.




One wonders if alcohol were involved.


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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?


I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.


Whether its deflected by some PETA activist, or some other avenue, I think
its inevitable that pretty much nothing will come of it. I am absolutely
astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do whatever
they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face. God,
the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long...

The only thing that I see on the horizon from this is exposure of the
details of 'Formaldehydegate' and historic evidence of Bush's 'Old Boys
Club' style of management.

--riverman


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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:43 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wayne Knight wrote:

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.


Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."

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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?


I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).


Fine line......at best. The first step in hiding anything is not reporting
it, ainna?

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)


Well, I don't know all the details.....and none of us ever will. That said,
the phrase "blaming the victim" smells strongly of the supposition that
victims never share in the responsibility for what happens to them. This is
patently absurd.

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path.


Cheney PROBABLY screwed up with regard to the shooting. This is generally
the case in such situations, but it is by no means impossible for someone to
get shot without the shooter having done anything stupid.

Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.


You aren't the vice president of the United States. Cheney DID screw up in
not making the matter public immediately.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.


No surprise there. I don't expect people to refrain from commenting on
issues that concern them. Animal rights activists would be idiots to pass
on an opportunity like this.

Wolfgang


 




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