Cheney shoots someone (I'm not kidding)

Jeff Miller wrote:
Larry and a Cat named Dub wrote:

Lets send him to Iraq where he can use his newly acquired skills
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cheney_hunting_accident

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heard the guy was a former gov. bush appointee to the texas funeral
commission? guess scalia will now have a reason to reconsider hunting
junkets with cheney, eh?

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried to cover it up:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001995719

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rw wrote:

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried to cover it up:


Doesn't sound like a cover up to me and I really would not expect them
to call a press conference announcing the vice president screwed up,
but I got a kick out of this line from the article you linked:

"White House aides can be expected to say that the Vice President did
not shoot Whittington, which suggests a bullet, but rather sprayed him
with birdshot, a type of ammunition made up of tiny pieces of lead or
steel,"

Whoever came up with this needs to work in marketing, not political
spin.

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rw wrote:

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight tried to cover it up:


Doesn't sound like a cover up to me and I really would not expect them
to call a press conference announcing the vice president screwed up,

Cover up or not, yet another exercise in preternatural stupidity. When Dick
Cheney shoots somebody and the news breaks more than a day later.....and
then only because someone else found out about it and announced it.....how
can the thought of cover up NOT occur?

but I got a kick out of this line from the article you linked:

"White House aides can be expected to say that the Vice President did
not shoot Whittington, which suggests a bullet, but rather sprayed him
with birdshot, a type of ammunition made up of tiny pieces of lead or
steel,"

Whoever came up with this needs to work in marketing, not political
spin.

It does sort of help one to understand better the rationale for the current
campaign in Iraq. Turns out that we've just been spraying the
place.......pest control. Who can object to that?

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?

I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.

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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?

I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.




One wonders if alcohol were involved.


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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?

I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP and
didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to the
victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.


Whether its deflected by some PETA activist, or some other avenue, I think
its inevitable that pretty much nothing will come of it. I am absolutely
astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do whatever
they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face. God,
the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long...

The only thing that I see on the horizon from this is exposure of the
details of 'Formaldehydegate' and historic evidence of Bush's 'Old Boys
Club' style of management.

--riverman

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Wolfgang wrote:

.....how can the thought of cover up NOT occur?

I think there's a difference between not reporting it (not a coverup)
than hiding the fact (cover up).

If one can believe what one hears on the tv news, i heard one report
yesterday where it said the guy who was shot came up behind the VP
and didn't let him know he was there, essentially assigning blame to
the victim. (and this wasn't Fox either)

Cheney obviously screwed up, he had the gun, took the shot and didn't
ensure there was no one in the path. Send him back to a basic hunter
safety class but I'm not sure I would issue a press release saying I
did something stupid either.

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least
one major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong.
I fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP
forgetting the basic safety rules of hunting.


Whether its deflected by some PETA activist, or some other avenue, I
think its inevitable that pretty much nothing will come of it. I am
absolutely astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty
much do whatever they want and to get away with it, even shooting
someone in the face. God, the list of things they do with impunity is
just getting so damn long...

The only thing that I see on the horizon from this is exposure of the
details of 'Formaldehydegate' and historic evidence of Bush's 'Old
Boys Club' style of management.

--riverman




You can't throw a rock while standing next to these guys without hitting
a potential scandal.

From the NY Times article

"In 1999, George W. Bush, then governor of Texas, named Mr. Whittington
to head the Texas Funeral Service Commission, which licenses and
regulates funeral directors and embalmers in the state. When he was
named, a former executive director of the commission, Eliza May, was
suing the state, saying that she had been fired because she investigated
a funeral home chain that was owned by a friend of Mr. Bush.

The suit was settled in 2001, but the details were not disclosed. Mr.
Whittington still serves in the position."

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Scott Seidman wrote:

You can't throw a rock while standing next to these guys without hitting
a potential scandal.

Shhhh! We're hunting Wepubwican Wawyers.

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riverman wrote:

I am absolutely
astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do whatever
they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face. God,
the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long...

What astounds me to this day is that as a matter of routines, we
(liberals) keep getting our asses kicked and it's just crap like this
that cause it. It was a freeking hunting accident with enough
negligence happening to result in a man being shot. It's not like he
shot the man by purposedly pointing the gun at him. Just what the hell
in this case is there to get away with?

We can bitch about balance and justice all the day long but when we
can't be balanced and fair, by what ethical standard can we hold them?

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

I am absolutely
astounded by the ability of both Bush and Cheney to pretty much do
whatever
they want and to get away with it, even shooting someone in the face.
God,
the list of things they do with impunity is just getting so damn long...

What astounds me to this day is that as a matter of routines, we
(liberals) keep getting our asses kicked and it's just crap like this
that cause it. It was a freeking hunting accident with enough
negligence happening to result in a man being shot. It's not like he
shot the man by purposedly pointing the gun at him. Just what the hell
in this case is there to get away with?

We can bitch about balance and justice all the day long but when we
can't be balanced and fair, by what ethical standard can we hold them?

The shooting.....as appalling as something like that always is......was,
presumably an accident. Probably involves some level of stupidity or
carelessness....negligence....whatever. I agree that folks are definitely
going overboard about that.

But the secrecy....and the spin....."spray".....for God's sake?

A hypothetical situation:

Let us assume that things had gone the other way around.......that Mr.
Whittington had shot Mr. Cheney......and didn't bother to tell anyone for a
day or so.......

Wolfgang