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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:43 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wayne Knight wrote:

What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one
major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I
fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting
the basic safety rules of hunting.


Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."

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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:49 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132
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Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."


Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State,
at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing shooting
in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to the real
thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility.

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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:55 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132
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Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."



Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State,
at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing shooting
in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to the real
thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility.


So you think that shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport?

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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"rw" wrote in message
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Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132
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Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."



Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State,
at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing
shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to
the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility.


So you think that shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport?


So, you think Scott said something that suggests he thinks shooting 70
farm-raised pheasants is sport?

Wolfgang
who never ceases to be amazed at what passes for reading skills in this
kindergarten.


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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote in
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Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132
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Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."



Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY
State, at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy
wing shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they
can get to the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer
facility.


So you think that shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport?



We all draw the line somewhere. Personally, for me, its big game
enclosed by a fence, because I don't think its "sporting" (whatever that
means) and the management practice helps spread CWD. With respect to the
birds, certainly, wanton waste enters the picture, so what's done with
the 70 birds is somewhat important. Perhaps a donation of the game to a
feed the poor program would somewhat ameliorate what appears at first
glance to be gluttony.

While sportsmen certainly need to police their own sport, so others don't
do it for them, I try to tread rather lightly. For example, there are
some people who think that catch and kill fishing is immoral. There are
catch and release fishermen that think catching and releasing fifty fish
in a day is an abuse of the resource and of the fish. There are anti-
wackos who say that any fishing at all is morally repugnant. There are
environmentalist who object to fish stocking. Which definitions of
sportsmanlike should I follow?

The social libertarian in me wants me to believe that dictating
"sportsmanlike" behavior to others who hold a different, though
defendable, definition of "sportsmanlike" is no more reasonable than
someone telling me when life begins. On the other side of the coin, I
don't think that fenced-in big game hunts should be legal, and you won't
catch me shooting 70 birds, though I might take a reasonable bag limit on
a game farm. I can see a youth shoot resulting in a party taking a large
number of birds, while still following a tight bag limit on each hunter.
Of course, wanton waste regulations should apply to absolutely every
hunt.


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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Scott Seidman wrote:

We all draw the line somewhere. Personally, for me, its big game
enclosed by a fence, because I don't think its "sporting" (whatever that
means) and the management practice helps spread CWD. With respect to the
birds, certainly, wanton waste enters the picture, so what's done with
the 70 birds is somewhat important. Perhaps a donation of the game to a
feed the poor program would somewhat ameliorate what appears at first
glance to be gluttony.

While sportsmen certainly need to police their own sport, so others don't
do it for them, I try to tread rather lightly. For example, there are
some people who think that catch and kill fishing is immoral. There are
catch and release fishermen that think catching and releasing fifty fish
in a day is an abuse of the resource and of the fish. There are anti-
wackos who say that any fishing at all is morally repugnant. There are
environmentalist who object to fish stocking. Which definitions of
sportsmanlike should I follow?

The social libertarian in me wants me to believe that dictating
"sportsmanlike" behavior to others who hold a different, though
defendable, definition of "sportsmanlike" is no more reasonable than
someone telling me when life begins. On the other side of the coin, I
don't think that fenced-in big game hunts should be legal, and you won't
catch me shooting 70 birds, though I might take a reasonable bag limit on
a game farm. I can see a youth shoot resulting in a party taking a large
number of birds, while still following a tight bag limit on each hunter.
Of course, wanton waste regulations should apply to absolutely every
hunt.


You can dance around the issue all you like, but I won't. I think
shooting farm-raised birds in a setup is deplorable, no different in
kind than shooting fenced-in deer.

It's not that I feel sorry for the birds. It's just disgusting,
egotistical behavior. It's probably great fun, though.

I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North
Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back
there, but it was great fun that one time.

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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:37 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote in news:Up3If.201$VI6.107
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You can dance around the issue all you like, but I won't. I think
shooting farm-raised birds in a setup is deplorable, no different in
kind than shooting fenced-in deer.


Fine. Don't do it. When you start telling me I shouldn't, I'll buy you a
PETA shirt.

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Old February 13th, 2006, 05:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"rw" wrote

I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North
Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back
there, but it was great fun that one time.


was that the place you went when waldo had his "spring fling"? if so,
do you remember how to get there?

yfitons
wayno

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Old February 13th, 2006, 10:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"rw" wrote

I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North
Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back
there, but it was great fun that one time.


was that the place you went when waldo had his "spring fling"? if so,
do you remember how to get there?

yfitons
wayno


I don't believe it's exists anymore. Walt should know though, as he and
Terry Troy (owner) were buddies, I think?

Op


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Old February 13th, 2006, 10:28 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"rw" wrote in message
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I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North
Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back
there, but it was great fun that one time.


It's Wounded Fork in NC. Wounded Knee was a different kind of hunt in an
entirely different state.

Op


 




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