![]() |
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Wayne Knight wrote:
What concerns me more than the lack of an announcement, is at least one major newspaper is quoting an animal hack calling hunting wrong. I fear the conversation will mover more this way than the VP forgetting the basic safety rules of hunting. Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of farm-raised birds in canned "hunts." -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of farm-raised birds in canned "hunts." Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State, at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132 @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of farm-raised birds in canned "hunts." Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State, at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility. So you think that shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "rw" wrote in message k.net... Scott Seidman wrote: rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132 @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of farm-raised birds in canned "hunts." Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State, at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility. So you think that shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport? So, you think Scott said something that suggests he thinks shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport? Wolfgang who never ceases to be amazed at what passes for reading skills in this kindergarten. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
rw wrote in
k.net: Scott Seidman wrote: rw wrote in news:cH2If.191$VI6.132 @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of farm-raised birds in canned "hunts." Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State, at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility. So you think that shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants is sport? We all draw the line somewhere. Personally, for me, its big game enclosed by a fence, because I don't think its "sporting" (whatever that means) and the management practice helps spread CWD. With respect to the birds, certainly, wanton waste enters the picture, so what's done with the 70 birds is somewhat important. Perhaps a donation of the game to a feed the poor program would somewhat ameliorate what appears at first glance to be gluttony. While sportsmen certainly need to police their own sport, so others don't do it for them, I try to tread rather lightly. For example, there are some people who think that catch and kill fishing is immoral. There are catch and release fishermen that think catching and releasing fifty fish in a day is an abuse of the resource and of the fish. There are anti- wackos who say that any fishing at all is morally repugnant. There are environmentalist who object to fish stocking. Which definitions of sportsmanlike should I follow? The social libertarian in me wants me to believe that dictating "sportsmanlike" behavior to others who hold a different, though defendable, definition of "sportsmanlike" is no more reasonable than someone telling me when life begins. On the other side of the coin, I don't think that fenced-in big game hunts should be legal, and you won't catch me shooting 70 birds, though I might take a reasonable bag limit on a game farm. I can see a youth shoot resulting in a party taking a large number of birds, while still following a tight bag limit on each hunter. Of course, wanton waste regulations should apply to absolutely every hunt. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Scott Seidman wrote:
We all draw the line somewhere. Personally, for me, its big game enclosed by a fence, because I don't think its "sporting" (whatever that means) and the management practice helps spread CWD. With respect to the birds, certainly, wanton waste enters the picture, so what's done with the 70 birds is somewhat important. Perhaps a donation of the game to a feed the poor program would somewhat ameliorate what appears at first glance to be gluttony. While sportsmen certainly need to police their own sport, so others don't do it for them, I try to tread rather lightly. For example, there are some people who think that catch and kill fishing is immoral. There are catch and release fishermen that think catching and releasing fifty fish in a day is an abuse of the resource and of the fish. There are anti- wackos who say that any fishing at all is morally repugnant. There are environmentalist who object to fish stocking. Which definitions of sportsmanlike should I follow? The social libertarian in me wants me to believe that dictating "sportsmanlike" behavior to others who hold a different, though defendable, definition of "sportsmanlike" is no more reasonable than someone telling me when life begins. On the other side of the coin, I don't think that fenced-in big game hunts should be legal, and you won't catch me shooting 70 birds, though I might take a reasonable bag limit on a game farm. I can see a youth shoot resulting in a party taking a large number of birds, while still following a tight bag limit on each hunter. Of course, wanton waste regulations should apply to absolutely every hunt. You can dance around the issue all you like, but I won't. I think shooting farm-raised birds in a setup is deplorable, no different in kind than shooting fenced-in deer. It's not that I feel sorry for the birds. It's just disgusting, egotistical behavior. It's probably great fun, though. I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back there, but it was great fun that one time. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
rw wrote in news:Up3If.201$VI6.107
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: You can dance around the issue all you like, but I won't. I think shooting farm-raised birds in a setup is deplorable, no different in kind than shooting fenced-in deer. Fine. Don't do it. When you start telling me I shouldn't, I'll buy you a PETA shirt. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "rw" wrote I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back there, but it was great fun that one time. was that the place you went when waldo had his "spring fling"? if so, do you remember how to get there? yfitons wayno -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "Wayne Harrison" wrote in message ... "rw" wrote I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back there, but it was great fun that one time. was that the place you went when waldo had his "spring fling"? if so, do you remember how to get there? yfitons wayno I don't believe it's exists anymore. Walt should know though, as he and Terry Troy (owner) were buddies, I think? Op |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "rw" wrote in message k.net... I've fished in roughly comparable situations. Wounded Knee in North Carolina is the closest parallel I can think of. I won't be going back there, but it was great fun that one time. It's Wounded Fork in NC. Wounded Knee was a different kind of hunt in an entirely different state. Op |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
MAKE THOUSANDS, NOT KIDDING | Eagleint25 | Bass Fishing | 0 | June 28th, 2004 12:54 AM |
Call for an Impeachment Inquiry of Bush and Cheney | Messing In Boats | Saltwater Fishing | 0 | April 18th, 2004 12:45 AM |
Rolling Stone - Bush is worst environmental president ever | Sportsmen Against Bush | Fly Fishing | 0 | December 4th, 2003 09:02 AM |
Cheney stifles Energy Bill probe | [email protected] | Fly Fishing | 1 | November 19th, 2003 01:44 PM |