Cheney shoots someone (I'm not kidding)

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote:
Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."

Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State,
at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing
shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to
the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility.

Yeah, but it's not like real wing shooting either if the ones
in New York state are anything like the ones here in Illinois.
Around here you pay for X amount of birds, X amount of birds
are taken out of their pens and planted in a field, and X
amount of birds are shot, one way or the other. They may as
well be fenced in for all the chance they have.

The few hunt clubs I've been to in southern Wisconsin are all surrounded by
other properties that have a much higher concnetration of pheasants (and
whatever other birds are released) than similiar habitats further from the
clubs. Escapees, I think they're called. Evidently we have some wing
shooters here who aren't as good as you. Presumably, their dogs aren't as
good as yours either.

I won't hunt
pheasant at one of those places.

I take it you don't eat chicken, then.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...
Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote:
Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."
Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY State,
at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy wing
shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can get to
the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility.
Yeah, but it's not like real wing shooting either if the ones
in New York state are anything like the ones here in Illinois.
Around here you pay for X amount of birds, X amount of birds
are taken out of their pens and planted in a field, and X
amount of birds are shot, one way or the other. They may as
well be fenced in for all the chance they have.

The few hunt clubs I've been to in southern Wisconsin are all surrounded by
other properties that have a much higher concnetration of pheasants (and
whatever other birds are released) than similiar habitats further from the
clubs. Escapees, I think they're called. Evidently we have some wing
shooters here who aren't as good as you. Presumably, their dogs aren't as
good as yours either.

Dogs are required at these places and there are no escapees.
If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you
shoot them yourself or the "guide" does.

I won't hunt
pheasant at one of those places.

I take it you don't eat chicken, then.

Huh ?

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Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...
Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...
Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote:
Cheney is a pig of a "hunter." He has a history of shooting scores of
farm-raised birds in canned "hunts."
Fair is fair. Game birds are alot fewer and farther between in NY
State, at least, than they were two decades ago. Many hunters enjoy
wing shooting in similar environments, as its the closest that they can
get to the real thing. It's not like it's a fenced-in deer facility.
Yeah, but it's not like real wing shooting either if the ones
in New York state are anything like the ones here in Illinois.
Around here you pay for X amount of birds, X amount of birds
are taken out of their pens and planted in a field, and X
amount of birds are shot, one way or the other. They may as
well be fenced in for all the chance they have.

The few hunt clubs I've been to in southern Wisconsin are all surrounded
by other properties that have a much higher concnetration of pheasants
(and whatever other birds are released) than similiar habitats further
from the clubs. Escapees, I think they're called. Evidently we have
some wing shooters here who aren't as good as you. Presumably, their
dogs aren't as good as yours either.

Dogs are required at these places and there are no escapees.
If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you
shoot them yourself or the "guide" does.

Hm.....

You say "They may as well be fenced in for all the chance they have." Can't
speak for anyone else, but it seems clear to me that this means they are NOT
fenced in. Hobbled? Chained to a stake? Left in the cage? Wings clipped?


I won't hunt
pheasant at one of those places.

I take it you don't eat chicken, then.

Huh ?

I said, "I take it you don't eat chicken, then."

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Dogs are required at these places and there are no escapees.
If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you
shoot them yourself or the "guide" does.

Hm.....

You say "They may as well be fenced in for all the chance they have." Can't
speak for anyone else, but it seems clear to me that this means they are NOT
fenced in. Hobbled? Chained to a stake? Left in the cage? Wings clipped?

Raised in cages some of them don't have sense enough to
fly away from the dogs and they have to have a swift kick
before they'll fly away. It's called "boot and shoot"
hunting and it bears about as much resemblence to real wing
shooting as fishing in a pay lake bears to real trout
fishing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Dogs are required at these places and there are no escapees.
If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you
shoot them yourself or the "guide" does.

Hm.....

You say "They may as well be fenced in for all the chance they have."
Can't speak for anyone else, but it seems clear to me that this means
they are NOT fenced in. Hobbled? Chained to a stake? Left in the cage?
Wings clipped?

Raised in cages some of them don't have sense enough to
fly away from the dogs and they have to have a swift kick
before they'll fly away. It's called "boot and shoot"
hunting and it bears about as much resemblence to real wing
shooting as fishing in a pay lake bears to real trout
fishing.

Raised in cities (or out in the country, for that matter) some of them don't
have sense enough to wait until they find something they know something
about before speaking or writing. You give them a swift kick, they lick the
boot and hoot. It bears about as much resemblance to real discussion as
open mike night at the village hall.

You ever actually see a pheasant?

Wolfgang

Ken Fortenberry wrote:


there are no escapees.
If you pay for 5 birds, you'll take home 5 birds whether you
shoot them yourself or the "guide" does.


Maybe for some places, but not all.