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Larry L typed:
"Tim J." wrote You're, of course, assuming that Bush IS a conservative, Actually, no. I think I'm far more conservative than Bush in many areas, especially fiscal responsibility. BUT, Bush/Rove do have the adman repeat the mantra style down and that is what I cited when using the phrase "Bush-like" So "Republican culture of corruption" is a Bush-like mantra, right? -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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![]() "Tim J." wrote So "Republican culture of corruption" is a Bush-like mantra, right? -- Yes it is, and, frankly, I'm upset with several things I see in the DemCamp including trying to use tactics the Republicans have mastered without having the mastery. BoZo the Dem party chairman was a huge mistake, imho, as the ONLY thing he knows is negativity. I'd love to find a candidate I can vote FOR, and I've said before on ROFF he does NOT have to be a Democrat. That said, I think the last 5 years have harmed my country more than any similar period in nearly half a century, and I blame the people pulling Bush's strings. I'm not anti-Republican .... but I admit 'you guys" are making it difficult to stay that way ... I HAAVE voted for Republican, probably will again. I saw somebody, a Rep that was the minister at Regan's funeral I think they said, last night talking about the grave dangers we all face as a Nation, because of Rove/et al seeing the demographic value of being 'faithful' .... he said lots of things I agreed with, none I'd fight in a 'let's compromise' environment, many of them 'anti this admin, but pro this country "... all from a Republican's point of view. Let's face it, Tim, .... I admit that the Dems have a BoZO chairman ... can you fess up to the fact that MOST republicans are voting party line far more than what's really right? Come on, you know it's true, don't ya? Heah, here's another one from an interview on PBS a few days back ... it was in my deleted files from one of the many many posts I write but never post. On potential damages that could result from the inquiry into the NSA surveillance, to that surveillance and to the nation, I present a Republican :-) "SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: All I can tell you is that the ultimate damage that I want to avoid is a constitutional damage in terms of checks and balances. I want to fight this enemy. I want to make sure our president and our military surveils the enemy. I want to know if American citizens are collaborating with the enemy. We can do that. We must do that. But the biggest thing that can happen, to me, as a nation is that in the process of fighting the enemy, we give up the processes that makes us free. I think there is plenty of room for surveiling the enemy and providing protections to American citizens who may be caught up in a network of conversations. So there's a lot of harm that can come. There's two harms: Letting the enemy know what we're doing. We need to make sure we don't do any more of that than we have to. The other harm, equally important to me, is that we destroy a constitutional balance that's worked for 200 years. " Larry says, "Amen, Bro" |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:54:12 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote: MOST republicans are voting party line far more than what's really right? I know Republicans that held their nose and voted for Bush. If the Democrats can put up nothing better than Al Gore or John Kerry, the Republicans will again take the WH John McCain will probably be the Republican Party choice in 2008. Who can the Dems put forth to beat him? Dave |
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Dave LaCourse wrote in
: John McCain will probably be the Republican Party choice in 2008. Who can the Dems put forth to beat him? Only if he can avoid hunting trips with Cheney. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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On 13 Feb 2006 23:17:29 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote: Only if he can avoid hunting trips with Cheney. d;o) I tried to tell Wolfgang about the jokes, but he thought I was blaming all this on Clinton. |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On 13 Feb 2006 23:17:29 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: Only if he can avoid hunting trips with Cheney. d;o) I tried to tell Wolfgang about the jokes, but he thought I was blaming all this on Clinton. I've been trying to tell people what a joke you are.......but the rage......and Clinton......make it a tough sell. Wolfgang |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote John McCain will probably be the Republican Party choice in 2008. Who can the Dems put forth to beat him? McCain really hurt himself with me in the same way that Colin Powell did ... that is, he proved to be more patriotic to the Republican Party than to the USA .... he knew the Party was doing things wrong and still went along ... on several issues. He, of course, is now trying to distance himself from Bush as the later is clearly a loser, but it's a bit too little too late to impress me. I can say I 'agree with' more of what I've heard come out of Cain's mouth over they years than disagree. His actions, post Bush admin, have, however, caused me to wonder just how many faces he has, and which to believe. I think he would be a good choice for 'your' Party and certainly several steps up from the last one. As for the Dems, I think they need to find direction rather than sulky rebellion. I honestly believe that a man that got up there and made us feel like he really wanted us ALL to be working together for a sustainable future, fiscally, environmentally, and socially with room for all .... could get most of the votes, regardless of Party. Whoever the Dems put up, the Reps will personally attack, as a main tactic. It's worked for them before ( Russ Limbaugh first showed them you don't have to make sense or be right to get a huge following, if you issue permission to hate ) and it will be hard to defend against that while still honestly looking forward ( one reason the attacks work so well is they avoid issues by side tracking them ). My fear is that the Dems will try to use what they see as dirty Republican tactics this next time, but they don't really have the skills and mindset needed to make it work, .... Rove is a genius of division, nastiness, and hate and genius can't be found everywhere. Add the clear danger of becoming like the enemy ( the danger we see every day, here at home, don't we ) as we behave like him, and I hope the Dems choose to fight FOR their traditional beliefs, and fight fairly. I'm NOT optimistic about my country's future ... |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:38:38 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote: I'm NOT optimistic about my country's future ... Last I checked, Canada ain't that far. |
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![]() "Larry L" wrote in message news ![]() ...But the biggest thing that can happen, to me, as a nation is that in the process of fighting the enemy, we give up the processes that makes us free.... I haven't researched the matter thoroughly, but I believe that senator Graham may be the smallest (and least articulate) nation in the history of the planet. Larry says, "Amen, Bro" Yeah. No kidding......ainna? Wolfgang |
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Tim J. wrote:
So "Republican culture of corruption" is a Bush-like mantra, right? Chaney was hunting illegally. He didn't have the required upland game bird permit. Are you happy about voting for a poacher? In the grand scheme of things, considering the mind-boggling, scandalous illegality this administration is involved in, I guess not having the required hunting tag doesn't rank very high. But it's indicative of the sense of privilege and the basic incompetence of this crew. No doubt Cheney will blame his lack of a tag on some pathetic, low level member of his staff. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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