worth thinking about

Fiddleaway wrote:
rw

... the Establishment Clause is a model of clarity...


it clearly prohibits itself ;-)

How do you figure?

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"rw" wrote in message
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Fiddleaway wrote:
rw
... the Establishment Clause is a model of clarity...


it clearly prohibits itself ;-)

How do you figure?


yeah, i don't understand that position.

yfitons
wayno

rw wrote
How do you figure?

Well ... I was kinda bein cutsie (hence the smiley) ... but the clause
itself can be viewed as a "law respecting an establishment of religion"

Fiddleaway wrote:
rw wrote

How do you figure?


Well ... I was kinda bein cutsie (hence the smiley) ... but the clause
itself can be viewed as a "law respecting an establishment of religion"

I still don't get it. Never mind.

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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:41 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

rw wrote
How do you figure?

Well ... I was kinda bein cutsie (hence the smiley) ... but the clause
itself can be viewed as a "law respecting an establishment of religion"

No, it can't. "Congress" didn't "make" the Bill of Rights in the sense
contemplated by the Amendment, it proposed it to the legislatures of the
States. But in any case, the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments)
is/are not law(s), it/they is/are a bar against Federal (and now, as
decided by the SCOTUS, State and local) action that the law promulgated
must follow, not laws made that citizens must follow.

And a close study of what the SC has popped as prohibited by the 1st
will show that, for the most part, they've been right, but it's not
their job to consult with a State's legislature while they draft law, it
is, generally speaking, their job to tell them when they've done it
improperly.

HTH,
R

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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:41 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

rw wrote
How do you figure?

Well ... I was kinda bein cutsie (hence the smiley) ... but the clause
itself can be viewed as a "law respecting an establishment of religion"

No, it can't. "Congress" didn't "make" the Bill of Rights in the sense
contemplated by the Amendment, it proposed it to the legislatures of the
States. But in any case, the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments)
is/are not law(s), it/they is/are a bar against Federal (and now, as
decided by the SCOTUS, State and local) action that the law promulgated
must follow, not laws made that citizens must follow.

And a close study of what the SC has popped as prohibited by the 1st
will show that, for the most part, they've been right, but it's not
their job to consult with a State's legislature while they draft law, it
is, generally speaking, their job to tell them when they've done it
improperly.

Good God, you are dim.

Wolfgang
who would bet a shiny new nickel that the boy gets a flaming bag of **** on
his porch every day.......with mind numbingly predictable results.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:44:55 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:41:41 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

rw wrote
How do you figure?

Well ... I was kinda bein cutsie (hence the smiley) ... but the clause
itself can be viewed as a "law respecting an establishment of religion"

No, it can't. "Congress" didn't "make" the Bill of Rights in the sense
contemplated by the Amendment, it proposed it to the legislatures of the
States. But in any case, the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments)
is/are not law(s), it/they is/are a bar against Federal (and now, as
decided by the SCOTUS, State and local) action that the law promulgated
must follow, not laws made that citizens must follow.

And a close study of what the SC has popped as prohibited by the 1st
will show that, for the most part, they've been right, but it's not
their job to consult with a State's legislature while they draft law, it
is, generally speaking, their job to tell them when they've done it
improperly.

Good God, you are dim.

Well, maybe yes, maybe no, but IAC, at least not as dim as some - _I_
don't owe _you_ a shiny new nickel - see below...

Wolfgang
who would bet a shiny new nickel that the boy gets a flaming bag of **** on
his porch every day.......with mind numbingly predictable results.

Cool...free money...OK, bet accepted...yet again, you lose...please
FedEx my nickel.