worth thinking about

"Fiddleaway" wrote

My experience in hearing people talk about the Constitution is that one
man's clarity is another's fuzzy logic.

true, indeed; and the primary reason why folks like myself can make a
living.

and if you think the jurisprudence engendered by the first amendment is
unclear, have a look at that associated with the fourth amendment.

yfitons
wayno

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:43:48 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


"Fiddleaway" wrote

My experience in hearing people talk about the Constitution is that one
man's clarity is another's fuzzy logic.

true, indeed; and the primary reason why folks like myself can make a
living.

and if you think the jurisprudence engendered by the first amendment is
unclear, have a look at that associated with the fourth amendment.

Um, "engendered" and "well-considered" rarely seem to share the same
pleadings in the modern system, even by accident...which goes a long way
to summarize why I chose the study rather than the practice...I mean,
judges don't seem to take it particularly well if you slap the **** out
of them and say "What the **** are thinking?!"...

yfitons

right back at ya...well, except for the "itons" part...
R

wrote

Um, "engendered" and "well-considered" rarely seem to share the same
pleadings in the modern system

How prudent of a practitioner trained in the art to use the former,
neutral, term rather than the value charged alternative emanating from the
political wing of the peanut gallery.

to summarize why I chose the study rather than the practice...I mean,
judges don't seem to take it particularly well if you slap the **** out
of them and say "What the **** are thinking?!"...

Well..I neither can do, nor teach ... but I kinda got the impression that
the can do's succeed in part because they can do precisely that ... in a
well-considered way, of course.

-dnc-

wrote

I chose the study rather than the practice

i didn't have that choice. i had to find a profession, a means to make
a living. i felt that i could perform at a high level as a trial lawyer.
i do not intend to denigrate you for not having to make a choice. the study
of law, in some of its specialties, would indeed be a fascinating
undertaking, if one had the time and resources to support the endeavor,
while making one's way in the world through other means.

at any rate, i can assure you that the practice is far more instructive
than the study.

yfitons
wayno

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:24:42 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


wrote

I chose the study rather than the practice

i didn't have that choice. i had to find a profession, a means to make
a living. i felt that i could perform at a high level as a trial lawyer.
i do not intend to denigrate you for not having to make a choice.

Ah, but here's the thing (and it's a secret, so don't tell anyone): I
have to make a living, too...well, I don't HAVE to, but I've grown
accustomed to certain niceties, such as food, clothing, and shelter (I
tried paying the staff at good ol' Beefeater Hall with some of those
government-issue food stamps, but they threatened to quit unless I
started back with the $1.25 an hour thing, and so, it was back to
beating more production out of the serfs). I was expected to (but
granted, didn't "have to") work from a young age, but since having been
graduated, I had the aforementioned "choice," food, etc. And as an
aside, I've increased "family wherewithal" rather than drawn from it.
Yes, I have become temporary caretaker-in-trust for quite a few nice
material possessions, but as I'm sure you know, such things tend to
create expenses rather than income, and at best, add nothing to my
income.

the study of law, in some of its specialties, would indeed be a fascinating
undertaking, if one had the time and resources to support the endeavor,
while making one's way in the world through other means.

And that's exactly what I've done. The fact that I chose to study what
interests me rather than to practice in a system which would require me,
by virtue of honorable professional ethics, do what I would often find
at odds with my personal beliefs, should not shock someone who feels
they had little or no choice but to practice in that system.

at any rate, i can assure you that the practice is far more instructive
than the study.

I disagree, and here's why: the practice of the thing forces you in
large part to conform to, and at least for many, become jaded by, the
system as it is, rather than as it should be. If I may ask, how do you
_really_ feel about CE?

TC,
R

yfitons
wayno

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:24:42 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


at any rate, i can assure you that the practice is far more
instructive
than the study.

I disagree, and here's why: the practice of the thing forces you in
large part to conform to, and at least for many, become jaded by, the
system as it is, rather than as it should be....

An opinion which, coming as it does from someone who shows no sign of having
benefited from the one and who has admittedly never tried the other, must be
judged worth every cent of what the clients paid for it.

Wolfgang
who thinks it must be a mighty fine thing to live in the world as it should
be.