Carp

"Terry Lomax" wrote in message
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Rodney Long wrote:
MR Ed wrote:
Just a few words on Carp
1 it's a fish that kids cab catch and have a lot of fun with
2 if you do want some fun try fishing them on a light fly rod,,,,,,
couple of short tugs on the fish and they will jump
the bugle bass are not the villians


They are indeed the villains, they will rapidly become 80, or more
percent of the total fish weight in a body of water, never throw one
alive, back into the water, it is our only way to try to control their
numbers, if they survive only 6 months, they are too large for perdation

Ideally you don't condone wanton waste. Would guess you won't get any
business in Europe where Carp are appreciated.

If you're going to kill Carp, utilize them completely. Your cooking
skills not good enough to eat them? Find someone who can utilize them
(any Asians in your community?)


Yea, the Chinese eat carp. Probably tastes good too.
But, the people who I run into specifically fishing for carp
are almost always eastern Europeans,...Yugoslavians, Hungarians, etc.
Last time I fished for carp (just for kicks) I had thes people come up
to me and ask me if they could have the fish if I wasn't keeping it. Be my
guest.
Plus, a good Jewish Grandmother will turn a carp into gefilte fish.
I've also heard from alot of people that carp is actually good when smoked.
This I believe since smoking seems to make otherwise not-so-tasty fish
pretty edible. Those who adovacte eating carp tell me that carp caught in
winter are the best because they don't taste as muddy as in the warmer
months.
This makes perfect sense but I don't think I've ever seen a carp in
wintertime.
The same folks tell me that a carp should be kept alive in a bucket of water
for
a few days to get the "muddiness" taste out of the fish.
Anyway, I do think that we don't utilize the carp as much as we probably can
since
it's an important food fish in many parts of the world, even farmed in some
places.
I also think there is an incredible prejudice against this fish, apart from
the valid scientific
reasons as to why we ought to get rid of them.

Harold wrote:


MR Ed wrote:

If you're going to kill Carp, utilize them completely.

That's like saying, if you kill a cock roach, you must eat them, or give
them to someone to eat, same for coyotes (non native for this area).

I utilize carp completely,, I return them to the food chain, from which
they stole from, dead carp work great for adding nutrition back to the
water ecosystem


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney,

I myself had tasted carp in Russia when both my wife and I picked
our daughter. They
usually smoked them. Our hosts had told us to
cut out the mud vein or keep them alive for a
couple of days. The carp that they had tasted
very good.
I myself usually kill the carp and let the rest
of nature take care of it. I do enjoy the good
fight that they put up. Especially on a flyrod when a large one is
hooked. Try catching carp
on a flyrod or ultra light spinning rod.



Trouter

David Norris wrote:


I myself usually kill the carp and let the rest
of nature take care of it. I do enjoy the good
fight that they put up. Especially on a flyrod when a large one is
hooked. Try catching carp
on a flyrod or ultra light spinning rod.

I do both,, great, fun way, to get rid of vermin.

CARP are the enemy of all natural fishes, in any body of water,
uncontrolled, they become 80% (or more) of a body of water's, fish
bio-mass. Kill every carp you catch,, kill every carp you can get a shot
at :-),, you can have fun doing it, but "NEVER C&R A CARP", your doing
nothing good for the environment, if you do.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

Having caught carp while fishing for other species, and fished just for
them, found they are excellent fighters as they get bigger. What turned me
off eating them was they felt mushy when handling them after being in the
fish bucket. I have had friends smoke Carp for me and surprisingly it is
not bad at all.

Have used live Carp about four pounds for bait in Lake Mead NV fishing for
large Catfish and Striped Bass. Caught a couple of Carp 20+ pounds and
thought I had the lake monster on the line. Most of the catch was returned
with maybe a few smaller ones brought home for fertilizer. Roses love Carp.

Yes they tend to disturb the bottom while feeding but found they would
survive in waters that would not support a lot of other more desirable fish.
Carp sure kept my interest in fishing as a kid in NY who had only a bicycle
to get anywhere. Everything has its place.


Rick



"David Norris" wrote in message
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Rodney,

I myself had tasted carp in Russia when both my wife and I picked
our daughter. They
usually smoked them. Our hosts had told us to
cut out the mud vein or keep them alive for a
couple of days. The carp that they had tasted
very good.
I myself usually kill the carp and let the rest
of nature take care of it. I do enjoy the good
fight that they put up. Especially on a flyrod when a large one is
hooked. Try catching carp
on a flyrod or ultra light spinning rod.



Trouter

Richard Eklund wrote:


Yes they tend to disturb the bottom while feeding but found they would
survive in waters that would not support a lot of other more desirable fish.


Carp "make" the waters so the more desirable fish can't survive

Carp sure kept my interest in fishing as a kid in NY who had only a bicycle
to get anywhere. Everything has its place.

I AGREE 1000%,, carp's place is Asia


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

I do agee that carp do tend disturb the bottom
of a lake,pond or river,when they feed on the
roots of aquatic plants. That tend to make the
water muddy.
I don't eat carp here,in the U.S.,I usually
kill the carp and feed the rest of wildlife on their
bodies. Also I seen people who use jugs for
going after large catfish,used small to meduim
sized carp for bait.
That is all that they are good for. Other than
than colored varieties known as Koi,for the pet
trade. And food for the otters,raccoons and
minks along the shores of our waterways.

Trouter

"Rodney Long" wrote in message
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Richard Eklund wrote:


Yes they tend to disturb the bottom while feeding but found they would
survive in waters that would not support a lot of other more desirable
fish.


Carp "make" the waters so the more desirable fish can't survive

Carp sure kept my interest in fishing as a kid in NY who had only a
bicycle
to get anywhere. Everything has its place.

I AGREE 1000%,, carp's place is Asia


Wrong.
Carp are native to Europe and Asia.
The carp we are stuck with here in the U.S. came from Europe.
I've seen whole carp being sold in Paris fishmarkets.

Harold wrote:


Wrong.
Carp are native to Europe and Asia.
The carp we are stuck with here in the U.S. came from Europe.
I've seen whole carp being sold in Paris fishmarkets.

WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carp were introduced to Europe, from Asia, about 500 years ago
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com