The Sport of Carp Fishing

"greg" wrote in
I bet if someone in the USA starts up CarpMaster and put some money into
marketing (and this will happen very soon) you will be the first one to
switch

I bet I wouldn't, nothing and I mean nothing beats the excitement I get from
chasing bass down, I've fished for a lot of different fish, freshwater and
sal****er alike, nothing gets my blood pumping faster than a bass hitting my
lure or bait... Tuna come pretty close, but that's about it, but pound for
pound the Bluegill might be the hardest fighting fish. I wish we had some 5
pound bluegills. Bluegill Master, I would sign up for that :-)


"E." wrote in message
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Down here the protocol is to cut their stinking heads off then let them
go.
There's no denying carp are a good fighting fish, but they are a
destructive pest. Anyone releasing a carp deserves to have all their gear
confiscated, and face court.


That *would* be a fun catch on 6lb line. Most spots i go to the carp are
70-100cm+. Killing them is a civic duty.

Yes, if it was spent on rotenone to kill them.
E.

This whole thread has what to do with Bass Fishing??


"Musashi" wrote in message
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"JMC" wrote in message
link.net...
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It's carp diem

Most 'rough' fans know only one fish can seize their day

06:35 PM CST on Saturday, March 18, 2006

By RAY SASSER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN - It's a laidback fishing deal at Emma Long Metropolitan Park on
Lake Austin. The lake is really a wide spot on the Colorado River.
Million-dollar mansions are elegantly perched on live oak-covered hills
surrounding the urban oasis. It's the sort of setting that makes the
hills of northern Austin an uncommon place.

Mark Villanova and Donnie Hutchinson are fishing for common carp in this
uncommon place. They've driven down I-35 from their Dallas-area homes
and spent the weekend lounging in camp chairs, playing with Villanova's
two children (Jordan and Jasmine), waiting for the high-pitched alarm
that signals a bite from the rubber-lipped queen of the rough fish.

"Bugle-mouthed bass" is one euphemism for carp. If you look closely at
Cyprinus carpio, you'll understand the description. These Asian imports

They were imported from Europe.
"The first live carp ever seen in North America arrived in Boston in 1877.
The 345 fish were accompanied by Rudolf Hessel, a scientist with the U.S.
government's Fish Commission who had been sent to Europe to collect and
bring back the prized game fish. Hessel stocked several ponds in Boston's
Druid Hill Park with his specimens, and he was thrilled to find that the
fish had no trouble at all surviving on this continent. In fact, Hessel's
carp were soon crowding their ponds."

http://www.acnatsci.org/education/kye/hi/exotics.html

The black carp. grass carp, bighead carp, all of which while members of
the
carp family but don't exactly look like the carp we know are more recent
imports from asia.

what are you guys talking about??? The original post was about carp, wasn't?

Also, I am MSC already, did you guys even start a college?

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yes, but you are posting about carp in the newsgroup
rec.outdoors.fishing.BASS
That is what is known as off topic cross posting.
greg wrote:
what is the topic of this thread? carp, isn't?

"Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard now"
wrote in message
...
"greg" wrote, "I simply cant believe how ignorant you are"

I feel the same way about offtopic cross posters. Please try not to
cross post to other groups. Some groups have charters, FAQ and
posting guidelines, please try to observe them.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:59:11 -0500, "greg" sent
into the ether:

I simply cant believe how ignorant you are. If you were just a bit
smarter,
you would understand that carp days are coming and coming quickly to
the
States. You are simply so completely blinded with whatever all those
colorful fishing magazines tell you that you would not even consider
anything but bass fishing. Bass fishing is a lot of fun, but hey,
open
your
eyes!

I bet if someone in the USA starts up CarpMaster and put some money
into
marketing (and this will happen very soon) you will be the first one
to
switch


"E." wrote in message
...

Down here the protocol is to cut their stinking heads off then let
them
go.
There's no denying carp are a good fighting fish, but they are a
destructive pest. Anyone releasing a carp deserves to have all
their
gear
confiscated, and face court.


That *would* be a fun catch on 6lb line. Most spots i go to the
carp
are
70-100cm+. Killing them is a civic duty.

Yes, if it was spent on rotenone to kill them.
E.





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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:45:31 -0500, "greg" sent
into the ether:

what are you guys talking about??? The original post was about carp, wasn't?

Also, I am MSC already, did you guys even start a college?
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greg wrote:

I simply cant believe how ignorant you are. If you were just a bit smarter,
you would understand that carp days are coming and coming quickly to the
States.

Then the States needs to urgently re-examine its policies, before its
waterways are overrun, fouled up, and devoid of anything but mud puppies.

You are simply so completely blinded with whatever all those
colorful fishing magazines tell you that you would not even consider
anything but bass fishing.

Making baseless statements makes you like stupid. I don't buy magazines
unless they are giving away free stuff. I also don't fish for bass. Why
would I when there are much better fish to target such as Murray Cod and
Yellowbelly about?
I also target carp regularly, but for different reasons.

Bass fishing is a lot of fun, but hey, open your
eyes!

Pot, Kettle, Black. That bit on your map that says "here be dragons..."
is actually The Rest Of The World. It exists. The US is not alone on
planet earth. Introduced carp are a problem in many countries.

I'm not denying that carp are a fun fish to catch, I just think
promoting them is stupid due to the damage they have been proven to do.
I don't think you'd win many freinds by illegaling stocking carp into a
previously carp free waterway.

I bet if someone in the USA starts up CarpMaster and put some money into
marketing (and this will happen very soon) you will be the first one to
switch

We already have carp killing tournaments to get rid of the pests.
My comments are about releasing them or caring for the scumsuckers.
Standard practice is to take a small axe to despatch them, so you don't
foul a knife to be used on a decent fish.
E.

greg wrote:
I simply cant believe how ignorant you are. If you were just a bit smarter,
you would understand that carp days are coming and coming quickly to the
States. You are simply so completely blinded with whatever all those
colorful fishing magazines tell you that you would not even consider
anything but bass fishing. Bass fishing is a lot of fun, but hey, open your
eyes!

I bet if someone in the USA starts up CarpMaster and put some money into
marketing (and this will happen very soon) you will be the first one to
switch


As soon as carp become a "game fish", you can start to write off all
native fish, the damage to the water, and habitat, to native fish, that
carp cause, is well known, trying to control their numbers, by killing
every carp caught, is the only thing that helps keep them in check, some
DNR's have poisoned whole bodies of water killing everything , just to
get the carp out, then restocking native fish. When carp become a game
fish, they will start putting limits on them, and IDIOTS will start C&R
them, it won't take long, and they will become at least 80% of a body of
water's fish bio-mass. actually they are doing this now, with no
protection. This is a "PROVEN" FACT !!!!!!!!!!!

Sure carp are fun to catch, shooting coyotes is fun too, and here, in
the south, where coyotes are not native, that they have no place in our
eco-system, we have fun eradicating them. Just like we do with the
imported starlings

If you like carp fishing ,, fine,, have at it, but remove every carp you
catch, eat them , give them away, plant them in your garden, there sure
is no shortage of them, and there never will be, untill we convince the
DNR's to poison them "all". At least you crap fishermen can help control
their numbers, then we bass fishermen, would not bad mouth ya'll so much.

Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them,
netting them in huge numbers.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...
greg wrote:
(clipped)

Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them, netting
them in huge numbers.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com
Isn't there a commercial market for them. Newspaper ran a story about
commercial fishermen licensed to seine the Pec river in N. Ill. a few years
ago. Asked the fishermen what they did with the Carp. Their answer "sold
them to a major fast food chain"..which by the way, they wouldn't name. I
always thought that fish sandwich at McDonalds had a familiar taste to it.
Tom G.

Rodney Long wrote:
greg wrote:

As soon as carp become a "game fish", you can start to write off all
native fish, the damage to the water, and habitat, to native fish, that
carp cause, is well known, trying to control their numbers, by killing
every carp caught, is the only thing that helps keep them in check, some
DNR's have poisoned whole bodies of water killing everything , just to
get the carp out, then restocking native fish. When carp become a game
fish, they will start putting limits on them, and IDIOTS will start C&R
them, it won't take long, and they will become at least 80% of a body of
water's fish bio-mass. actually they are doing this now, with no
protection. This is a "PROVEN" FACT !!!!!!!!!!!

We have the same problem here with spotty carp, AKA trout, which are
about the only large fish left in upland waterways. The original
inhabitants have been outstocked, then outbred by trout.
Suggestions of making some streams trout-free to give natives a chance
is met by howls of derision. I hope the same situation never occurs with
carp.

Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them,
netting them in huge numbers.

They actually make good fertiliser and are caught with this purpose in
mind in some places.
Netting is largely out of the question due to greenie policies.
Cheers,
E.

Tom G wrote:

"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...

greg wrote:

(clipped)

Another solution, is there becoming a commercial market for them, netting
them in huge numbers.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

Isn't there a commercial market for them. Newspaper ran a story about
commercial fishermen licensed to seine the Pec river in N. Ill. a few years
ago. Asked the fishermen what they did with the Carp. Their answer "sold
them to a major fast food chain"..which by the way, they wouldn't name. I
always thought that fish sandwich at McDonalds had a familiar taste to it.
Tom G.

Anyone serving carp disguising it as something else is likely to end up
gilled and gutted.
E.

"E." wrote in message
...

They actually make good fertiliser and are caught with this purpose in
mind in some places.
Netting is largely out of the question due to greenie policies.
Cheers,


Looking forward to April 1. Net season runs for 2 months here in Michigan,
(lower, upper has a 1 month season starting a month later)

I have a new net on the way, my ropes are ready to go,

I love killing carp in large numbers.

Did you know that netters catch as many fish on the bottom of the net as the
top? (8x8 net lays flat on the bottom)
Next carp you catch, examine the dorsal fin. There is a saw-toothed spine
that catches in the mesh and a 30 pounder can be lifted only by the spine.
You can tell when you've set your net on top of a big one. The whole
assembly starts shaking and bouncing around. Wait a few to insure the mesh
catches the barbs. Funny sight , pulling 3-4 carp up by a single fin and
all hanging below the net.

I'll post some pictures in a few weeks.


Pepperoni