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Old June 21st, 2004, 02:34 AM
Bob La Londe
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Are you sure you didn't have spawning shad? I ran into that on Mittry Lake
back in March. Shad were busting up and down both banks were I was fishing,
and there was nothing chasing them.

In open water I would have tried a popper. Then gone to a sub surface shad
imitator like a Kastmaster in blue and chrome or a shad pattern crank bait.
If that didn't work I would probably have tried dropping wacky Kinami Flash
natural shad color stick worms through the bustting shad.

I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of the guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait fish for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the area you
will catch them too using that pattern.

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"Brad Coovert" wrote in message
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I was casting a Bill Norman Middle N crankbait (in white with a lt
purple back)


Right there is your problem, you were throwing the wrong color and size

Norman!
Where was the ol' standby? ;-)

Seriously, did YOU not try a spinnerbait? It's like your second bait

after a
crankbait, is it not? Fishing a spinnerbait over and in the weeds and

ripping
it free from time to time might have gotten a bigger bite. Maybe slow

rolling
the bait over and around the deeper weeds.

I would have also had to try a Crigged plastic in the grass beds. I

know
it's
a pain in the rear to do it in the weeds, but it can pay off. I've

fished
in
the wind in weeds and got away with using a 3/8 oz. bullet weight on the

Crig.
I could still cast and feel the weeds and the hangups were a bit less.



I was really surprised the spinnerbait didn't work. I used it during the
time I was using the buzzbait, cause there were fish breaking on shad all
over the place in the cove where I launched.

Any good tricks for holding the worm on the hook in the weeds while
C-rigging? I don't mind the weeds, but having to adjust the worm after
every other cast gets a little frustrating... Maybe I need to get one tha
floats a little better...

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Old June 21st, 2004, 04:06 AM
Andrew Kidd
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Are you sure you didn't have spawning shad? I ran into that on Mittry

Lake
back in March. Shad were busting up and down both banks were I was

fishing,
and there was nothing chasing them.


In open water I would have tried a popper. Then gone to a sub surface

shad
imitator like a Kastmaster in blue and chrome or a shad pattern crank

bait.
If that didn't work I would probably have tried dropping wacky Kinami

Flash
natural shad color stick worms through the bustting shad.


These guys were out near the outside of the weed edge, over 5-6ft of
water with the weeds just under the surface. Not really a school of shad,
but fish busting all over this depth of water. I'm pretty sure our shad
spawn is finished. I saw some minnows on the ramp at another reservoir
today, so I splashed one onto the ramp (they're not very bright), and
checked it out. It appeared to be shad, bout a half inch long. This is a
river-like reservoir that usually has the spawn a couple weeks behind the
other bodies of water in the area.
I guess I just stuck with the buzzbait instead of the popper because of
previous succes on this particular water... Should have thrown the Pop-R.



I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of the guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait fish for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the area

you
will catch them too using that pattern.


Appreciate it Bob... Just wondering what others would have done to try and
grab a few larger fish in the situation I was in. I was catching plenty of
fish, just not a lot of size.
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Old June 21st, 2004, 04:22 AM
Bob La Londe
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"Andrew Kidd" wrote in message
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
Are you sure you didn't have spawning shad? I ran into that on Mittry

Lake
back in March. Shad were busting up and down both banks were I was

fishing,
and there was nothing chasing them.


In open water I would have tried a popper. Then gone to a sub surface

shad
imitator like a Kastmaster in blue and chrome or a shad pattern crank

bait.
If that didn't work I would probably have tried dropping wacky Kinami

Flash
natural shad color stick worms through the bustting shad.


These guys were out near the outside of the weed edge, over 5-6ft of
water with the weeds just under the surface. Not really a school of shad,
but fish busting all over this depth of water. I'm pretty sure our shad
spawn is finished. I saw some minnows on the ramp at another reservoir
today, so I splashed one onto the ramp (they're not very bright), and
checked it out. It appeared to be shad, bout a half inch long. This is a
river-like reservoir that usually has the spawn a couple weeks behind the
other bodies of water in the area.
I guess I just stuck with the buzzbait instead of the popper because

of
previous succes on this particular water... Should have thrown the Pop-R.



I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of the

guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait fish

for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the area

you
will catch them too using that pattern.


Appreciate it Bob... Just wondering what others would have done to try

and
grab a few larger fish in the situation I was in. I was catching plenty

of
fish, just not a lot of size.


Get under the school. Big bass will kick back and suck up wounded falling
bait fish while smaller ones are slashing through the school and wounding
fish. The Kastmaster is good because you can cast it beyond the school and
give it a pull and fall retrieve as it passes under the bait fish. I like
the stick worm too. Others I have heard will go to a a crank bait that runs
4-6 ft so it will cut under the school, but I prefer the Kastmaster of the
stick worm. The crankbait I prefer were there is more of an ambush
situation.


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Old June 21st, 2004, 12:39 PM
Andrew Kidd
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I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of the

guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait fish

for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the

area
you
will catch them too using that pattern.


Appreciate it Bob... Just wondering what others would have done to try

and
grab a few larger fish in the situation I was in. I was catching plenty

of
fish, just not a lot of size.


Get under the school. Big bass will kick back and suck up wounded falling
bait fish while smaller ones are slashing through the school and wounding
fish. The Kastmaster is good because you can cast it beyond the school

and
give it a pull and fall retrieve as it passes under the bait fish. I like
the stick worm too. Others I have heard will go to a a crank bait that

runs
4-6 ft so it will cut under the school, but I prefer the Kastmaster of the
stick worm. The crankbait I prefer were there is more of an ambush
situation.



Bob,
I have not been very clear here. The shad busting only lasted maybe
fifteen minutes tops. I couldn't connect with any of them at all. Of the
17 fish I caught, none were in this topwater style shad busting... The fish
were not balled up on any one school of shad (or so it appeared), they were
all up and down this weed edge. I do agree with what you're saying,
although it would have only given me a chance at another fish or two. I was
thinking of ways to enhance the crankbait pattern I was on to try and catch
larger fish, instead of just quantity... Thanks for replying....

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Old June 21st, 2004, 05:17 PM
Bob La Londe
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Sorry Andrew. I mistook your whole explanation. I probably would have
still tried to follow my patern. When I get into something I usually have
4-6 rods strapped to the front deck and another half dozen in the locker.
I've even been known to throw out a stick worm and let it drop then take a
popper and work it right over the top of the falling worm. (only when fun
fishing) For those who don't know you are only allowed to have one line in
the water per angler in most tournaments. There are exceptions. I have
seen guys in walleye tournaments jigging with a rod in each ahnd before.

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I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of

the
guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait

fish
for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the

area
you
will catch them too using that pattern.

Appreciate it Bob... Just wondering what others would have done to

try
and
grab a few larger fish in the situation I was in. I was catching

plenty
of
fish, just not a lot of size.


Get under the school. Big bass will kick back and suck up wounded

falling
bait fish while smaller ones are slashing through the school and

wounding
fish. The Kastmaster is good because you can cast it beyond the school

and
give it a pull and fall retrieve as it passes under the bait fish. I

like
the stick worm too. Others I have heard will go to a a crank bait that

runs
4-6 ft so it will cut under the school, but I prefer the Kastmaster of

the
stick worm. The crankbait I prefer were there is more of an ambush
situation.



Bob,
I have not been very clear here. The shad busting only lasted maybe
fifteen minutes tops. I couldn't connect with any of them at all. Of the
17 fish I caught, none were in this topwater style shad busting... The

fish
were not balled up on any one school of shad (or so it appeared), they

were
all up and down this weed edge. I do agree with what you're saying,
although it would have only given me a chance at another fish or two. I

was
thinking of ways to enhance the crankbait pattern I was on to try and

catch
larger fish, instead of just quantity... Thanks for replying....

--
Andrew Kidd
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  #6  
Old June 21st, 2004, 04:11 AM
Andrew Kidd
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
Are you sure you didn't have spawning shad? I ran into that on Mittry

Lake
back in March. Shad were busting up and down both banks were I was

fishing,
and there was nothing chasing them.


In open water I would have tried a popper. Then gone to a sub surface

shad
imitator like a Kastmaster in blue and chrome or a shad pattern crank

bait.
If that didn't work I would probably have tried dropping wacky Kinami

Flash
natural shad color stick worms through the bustting shad.


These guys were out near the outside of the weed edge, over 5-6ft of
water with the weeds just under the surface. Not really a school of shad,
but fish busting all over this depth of water. I'm pretty sure our shad
spawn is finished. I saw some minnows on the ramp at another reservoir
today, so I splashed one onto the ramp (they're not very bright), and
checked it out. It appeared to be shad, bout a half inch long. This is a
river-like reservoir that usually has the spawn a couple weeks behind the
other bodies of water in the area.
I guess I just stuck with the buzzbait instead of the popper because of
previous succes on this particular water... Should have thrown the Pop-R.



I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of the guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait fish for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the area

you
will catch them too using that pattern.


Appreciate it Bob... Just wondering what others would have done to try and
grab a few larger fish in the situation I was in. I was catching plenty of
fish, just not a lot of size.
--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home



  #7  
Old June 21st, 2004, 04:11 AM
Andrew Kidd
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
Are you sure you didn't have spawning shad? I ran into that on Mittry

Lake
back in March. Shad were busting up and down both banks were I was

fishing,
and there was nothing chasing them.


In open water I would have tried a popper. Then gone to a sub surface

shad
imitator like a Kastmaster in blue and chrome or a shad pattern crank

bait.
If that didn't work I would probably have tried dropping wacky Kinami

Flash
natural shad color stick worms through the bustting shad.


These guys were out near the outside of the weed edge, over 5-6ft of
water with the weeds just under the surface. Not really a school of shad,
but fish busting all over this depth of water. I'm pretty sure our shad
spawn is finished. I saw some minnows on the ramp at another reservoir
today, so I splashed one onto the ramp (they're not very bright), and
checked it out. It appeared to be shad, bout a half inch long. This is a
river-like reservoir that usually has the spawn a couple weeks behind the
other bodies of water in the area.
I guess I just stuck with the buzzbait instead of the popper because of
previous succes on this particular water... Should have thrown the Pop-R.



I don't mind sharing that with you Andrew. I think you're one of the guys
who helped me figure out that sequence of fishing in busting bait fish for
bass last year when I asked. Of course if there are striper in the area

you
will catch them too using that pattern.


Appreciate it Bob... Just wondering what others would have done to try and
grab a few larger fish in the situation I was in. I was catching plenty of
fish, just not a lot of size.
--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home



 




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