bought a new...well, used trailer

William Claspy wrote:

A cottage I have had the good fortune to use several times up nort' has a
propane refrigerator. For the life of me, I can't figure out how something
that has a pilot light and burns fossil fuel could turn the milk all
ice-slushy by morning...

:-)

Bill (here to tell you that however it works, it WORKS!)

Heat is applied to to a solution of ammonia and water, up to the boiling
point of ammonia. (Ammonia boils at -27 degrees F.) The ammonia gas is
separated from the water and flows to a condenser, where it loses heat
while condensing to a liquid, then it goes to an evaporator, is mixed
with hydrogen and evaporated, which produces the cooling. To close the
cycle, the ammonia and hydrogen are mixed with and dissolved in the
water from the separation phase, releasing the hydrogen.

Now you know. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:40:14 GMT, "asadi"
wrote:


"rb608" wrote in message
roups.com...
I know you already know this, but I'll piggyback on rdean's comments to
echo the "how much power do you need?" question. In my experience, a
good, fully-charged 12V deep cycle should take care of your basic
necessities for several days, if used judiciously. In my case, that's
lighting at night & running the on-demand pump. My experience may be
atypical, but I don't use electric lighting much, preferring to use
lanterns, even inside the camper (that's something else that's better
in a popup.)

If you gotta have a generator, (I'm guessing that's not a 3-way
fridge?), I'd keep it as small, portable, and quiet as possible; but
I'm not your go-to guy on that question.

I'd suggest the ARVPUT folks, but I'm not sure that's worth the trouble
of hanging around in there.

Joe F.


Well, I had two deep cycle batteries on my other unit. I do prefer the 12v
lights. The fridge is propane. But a lot of times I'm mushroom hunting, or
kayaking and part of the evening is setting around and cooking up a big
dinner, when it's cold.

Yes a deep cycle will take care of you for some days, but in the early
evening while cooking and eating and story telling or before you go out in
the morning, it's nice to run the furnace. And the furnace really pulls the
juice out of the battery.

Quite is the key and if it has enough watts to handle the furnace, anything
left over will go back in the battery, I haven't really examined the
furnace or converter to see what is what yet.

FWIW, you might want to look at propane for the furnace, too, get a smaller
inverter, and forego the generator altogether. As an example, even the little
tabletop-type heaters are 1000-1500 watts, which is getting near the limit of
the "porta-power" style generators. Plus, you'd have to carry gasoline, which,
at least IMO, is more dangerous than LP cylinders.

TC,
R

"William Claspy" wrote in message
...
On 3/23/06 9:07 AM, in article
, "rb608"
wrote:

it's more like a tent on wheels.

Joe, you must use a different kind of tent than I do! Sink? Fridge?
Generator? King size bed?

When I'm in my tent, the only cushy I think about is making sure there
ain't
a rock right under my lower back.

:-)

Bill
(or cooler full of venison inside :-)

Evil *******.

Anyway......

Done the tent thing, tarps, pits dug in the earth, cedars boughs, highway
overpasses, etc., etc. It's all good.

Did John's Taj Matrailer last September.....it was REAL good! Gonna miss
that.

Wolfgang

"asadi" wrote in message
et...

"William Claspy" wrote in message
A few of us have our favorite spots up there, and I sure hope we'll be in
a
sharing mood come mid-September!

Sounds like a nice rig, John!

Bill


I think it's going to fill the bill as far as my needs go. It will be
closer to the outdoors, although I admit the big rig was fun while it
lasted.

It WAS fun. As a matter of fact, it was DEluxe! Well, except for the rain
coming in your side......but that wasn't my problem.....right?

As far as favorite spots go, ...I could play all day there and there's
just oodles of room....Hmmmmm

Wolf, you think we could make it to the lake or on down the river in
kayaks? Kinda iffy on new water, a little bit of a drag to get the yaks
down but it would be an adventure......... We could get a cart and tow the
yaks to the top of the hill and they could be locked up and returned for
or whatever. A true story in the making as it were.

You mean from the nameless falls that we never found (or even heard of) and
wouldn't know how to get back to even if we HAD been there with a couple of
friends and a fierce dog?

Depends. You mean the little lake?.....or the BIG one?

Oh, what the hell......yeah, we can do that.

But it'll be easier if there's a wee bit more water.......um......I mean,
more than the first time.....when we weren't there.

Wolfgang

"asadi" wrote in message
. com...
Having sold my hybrid which many of you have seen, I purchased a pop-up.
Cheaper to own (not new enough or expensive enough to have to carry
insurance), cheaper to maintain (no longer need to pay storage) and
cheaper to tow (gas wise.)

john

Yep, I told ya not to get rid of the old pop-up!

I e-mailed ya the other day, but haven't heard anything yet, so I just give
it to ya here.

burtann at bellsouth dot net

bowenmh at appstate dot net

ate two ate - too 9 too-9 zero squared 5

Op

"William Claspy" wrote in message
...
On 3/23/06 10:21 AM, in article
, "asadi"
wrote:

Wolf, you think we could make it to the lake or on down the river in
kayaks?

If by "the lake" you mean Gitcheegumee, I'll defer to someone else. But
if
you mean lakes in general, there are LOTS of them up there, both brookie
and
warm water, that would lend themselves to floating, either kayak or float
tube.

Can't speak to rivers either, except to point out that UP rivers,
particularly western UP, are notable for their falls. :-)

You ever been to Sturgeon Falls? Less than an hour's drive from where you
and I know well. Thir......um.....damn!....THIRTY-EIGHT! years I've been
playing in those woods and never been there before last September. If
you've never been, you are going to love it. If you have, you know what I
mean.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
Evil *******.

Anyway......

Done the tent thing, tarps, pits dug in the earth, cedars boughs, highway
overpasses, etc., etc. It's all good.

Did John's Taj Matrailer last September.....it was REAL good! Gonna miss
that.

Wolfgang

Oh yeah, I guess you've for gotten about our little set-up at the first
anti-clave! Aside from my loud drunken ramblings, and Mr. Millers early
morning intrusion, what more could ya have asked for.

Op --hell the boy had his own cot, wall to wall blanketed flooring, reading
light, and a library of books, all compliments of yours truly! (did I
mention being loud and drunk most of the time?) --

"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
Evil *******.

Anyway......

Done the tent thing, tarps, pits dug in the earth, cedars boughs, highway
overpasses, etc., etc. It's all good.

Did John's Taj Matrailer last September.....it was REAL good! Gonna miss
that.

Wolfgang

Oh yeah, I guess you've for gotten about our little set-up at the first
anti-clave! Aside from my loud drunken ramblings, and Mr. Millers early
morning intrusion, what more could ya have asked for.

Op --hell the boy had his own cot, wall to wall blanketed flooring,
reading light, and a library of books, all compliments of yours truly!
(did I mention being loud and drunk most of the time?) --

Posh accommodations indeed! I have always depended on the kindness of
strangers.

Wolfgang
who knows that they don't come any stranger than mark and john.

William Claspy wrote:
A cottage I have had the good fortune to use several times up nort' has a
propane refrigerator. For the life of me, I can't figure out how something
that has a pilot light and burns fossil fuel could turn the milk all
ice-slushy by morning...

:-)

Bill (here to tell you that however it works, it WORKS!)

It must have worked well...or you wouldn't be here. We used to have
numerous carbon monoxide deaths every year in Ontario and Quebec,
hunters and fisherman in remote cabins with propane refrigerators. If
the burner isn't maintained properly, it produces CO, so if the doors
and windows are closed, it's game over. Newer models must have a CO
detector I think.

I found a good story for anyone who uses propane in a boat or trailer.

http://www.multihullsmag.com/magazin...%20article.htm

Cheers

Bob

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ending for an old fly fisherman. Yes, I'm nuts. I will return the favor
if you have a story.
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